WGFD license proposals 2022, big cuts to Antelope.
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Hilltop
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I believe whether you support it or not, 90/10 is where all western states are going. It's inevitable due to growing populations in those states, decreasing animal populations, and increased awareness by resident hunters. It will sting for a while but the non-resident hunter will still get opportunities.
Colorado Cowboy
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I really doubt Colorado goes 90/10 for elk, they make too much money on the 2nd & 3rd season OTC tags to NR's. Deer is another matter as they are totally limited now.
Hilltop
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Colorado is a different animal because of the revenue money from hunting supporting Parks as well as the wildlife. That makes a huge difference.
Colorado Cowboy
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I agree. I did a lot of volunteer work for Parks when it wasn't part of Wildlife. It was a big mistake for the Governor to combine them. They try to keep the money separated, but it is not possible all the time.
mallardsx2
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It appears that you do, or you wouldn't be commenting and getting all pissy.
If you got something that has actual value to this conversation, please post it up, otherwise your coming off as a complete ahole keyboard hero right now.
Exactly right... sometimes the gf just doesn't get it right.
I've watched the pronghorn hunting around Laramie decline for at least 6-7 years, really bad the last 3 or so.
We filled zero pronghorn tags in 2020, and one of six last year....by choice. It was the right thing to do...resource first.
Maybe we could get together and have a tag shredding party and stream it on zoom so mallardsx2 could throw another tantrum.
Colorado Cowboy
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It's your choice. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but I doubt if you'll see many NR's doing it. They pay a lot more for tags than residents. Myself, I am just not applying for a tag because I have seen the decline in the units I hunt for at least 5 years.
Not for doe tags....what a couple dollars more?
I do agree 100% with your comment of about when the decline started...that's exactly what I've seen also.
Colorado Cowboy
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You are correct about the doe tags. They are really cheap, I remember when we could buy them for $5.00 and were allowed 5 tags.
wy-tex
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Odd, as your ratty ass was commenting on folks not using their licenses. I have no problem with hunters filling their licenses they draw but as a resident that can afford to not fill some, we do just that every year .
mallardsx2
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The real shame is that you folks have to make the decision on a personal level (to buy tags and not use them) because the game and fish over issued doe tags for the last several years on a struggling herd of animals. If it makes you feel better I have seen this in many states. We pay a kings ransom for game and fish departments nationwide to do their job and here you are inadvertently doing it for them by not filling them.
And no, it doesn't seem so dumb that you locals see a problem and want to protect the resource. I get it. I shredded many doe tags in my life when the PA game commission tried to decimate the deer herds in Pennsylvania (they almost succeeded)...
But it doesn't change the fact that you are complaining about having a late mule deer season and it will STILL make you a hypocrite if you get the tag and you fill it. Even if it is on a 3 point. And the part I like most of all is the fact that many of you rally for the 90/10 and about wanting MORE tags allocated to residents and here you all are flapping your gums saying that your going to apply for a tag and potentially not use it. lol
Like I said, you can do whatever blows your dress up. I dont care.
I'm done with this topic and I will take my ratty ass to another thread. lol
wy-tex
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I don't wear dresses, lol . I never advocated for 90/10 until you made it personal so whatever.
You were done before you ever started.
No people are not hypocrites because they apply for tags that they oppose. Those deer are dead meat either way, at least those that took the time to oppose them showed up and got involved, will be filling them.
Rather see that than someone like you getting the tag who does absolutely nothing to address any issues in Wyoming...you're a lot of hot air and do nothing but criticize those in the trenches that actually care about wildlife.
Thanks for doing your "best", which is nothing.
Granby guy
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They need to end the OTC elk tags.
Alabama
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It's bad that G&F didn't cut tags sooner. If you guys could see the declines, then the biologists must have been on the verge off a meltdown. I think it's pretty awesome you guys did this. I passed through WY in 2020 after hunting there in 2016 and the difference was night and day when comparing the number of animals observed from the highway.
Colorado Cowboy
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I agree 100%. 2nd & 3rd season are an absolute zoo around here. I do hunt those seasons in units that have limited tags.
If the critters are down, cut the doe tags - all of em. Shooting does is population reduction - say to keep the winter range from being overrun. With the decline of the animals, does should become protected. Such a simple solution.
As for NR's having meltdowns - happens about the same as Rs on some forums.
The whole 90/10 threat - either do it or don't. Just don't drag it out and keep tossing it in our faces. As a NR, we like to plan our hunts, it gives us enjoyment for a year or more - remove that with some BS bonus point thing and steal the ability to plan our hunts a few-5-10 years out - turn it into a win/lose kind of lottery. That hurts more than the not hunting. The loss of the dream or long term plans is a pretty tough pill to swallow.
I don't see anything wrong with late season hunts or applying for tags, even if you openly oppose them. If the deer are gonna die - you might as well be the one pulling the trigger. Just don't get the science behind it, they say the mature bucks have the most prions. What about mature does? Just as old, likely have just as many prions.
As for NR's having meltdowns - happens about the same as Rs on some forums.
The whole 90/10 threat - either do it or don't. Just don't drag it out and keep tossing it in our faces. As a NR, we like to plan our hunts, it gives us enjoyment for a year or more - remove that with some BS bonus point thing and steal the ability to plan our hunts a few-5-10 years out - turn it into a win/lose kind of lottery. That hurts more than the not hunting. The loss of the dream or long term plans is a pretty tough pill to swallow.
I don't see anything wrong with late season hunts or applying for tags, even if you openly oppose them. If the deer are gonna die - you might as well be the one pulling the trigger. Just don't get the science behind it, they say the mature bucks have the most prions. What about mature does? Just as old, likely have just as many prions.