WY Grizzly Bear Application Starts July 2nd

BuzzH

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Hopefully if they do draw, they don't have or cannot complete a hunter-safety certification course!
Irrelevant, there is no requirement to have hunter safety to purchase a tag, hunters safety is checked in the field.

Also, I have NO problem with anyone applying for whatever reason they want. The wildlife in the State is held in trust for the Citizens of the State and further, the State decides who can and can not apply for our wildlife.

If Wyoming decides that NR's can apply, that opens the door for anyone with $15 to apply, purchase a tag, and do with it as they please.

I see a non hunter applying, no differently than a hunter applying, drawing the tag, buying said tag, and then only giving the hunt a couple day of their time. Or being very picky and choosing not to kill a bear at all.

Their tag, their choice, and IMO, we're heading down a slippery slope by trying to "force" people to fill tags, or even hunt with them. Wildlife and the right to apply for a tag, should be afforded to everyone.

What I would be in favor of, is making a hunters safety course requirement to purchase the license. That would give the opportunity to educate the non-hunter who drew the tag, the merits of science based wildlife management, the history of wildlife conservation, etc.

But, to deny someone the ability to apply...absolutely NOT. Hunters constantly trumpet that the wildlife belongs to all citizens in their respective states, you cant say that, then deny a large part of the population the ability to apply.
 

mntnguide

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Sorry Buzz... but your statement is incorrect. Any anti hunter will be required to show proof BEFORE purchasing a tag


(i) Applicants contacted by the Department who have accepted the possible
opportunity to hunt a grizzly bear shall be required to submit a cashier?s check or money order
for their license fee and to show proof of having earned a certificate of competency and safety in
the use and handling of firearms, unless exempt by statute or otherwise authorized, to the
License Section at Headquarters within ten (10) consecutive days from the date they are
contacted by the Department.

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BuzzH

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Anyone born prior to 1959 doesn't need it to purchase a grizzly tag. The rest could do an online course available in several states. Anyone that doesn't do either can delay 10 days...which cuts time off the season in the dma.
 
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BuzzH

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Anyone born prior to 1959 doesn't need it to purchase a grizzly tag. The rest could do an online course available in several states. Anyone that doesn't do either can delay 10 days...which cuts time off the season in the dma.
Wrong twice in two posts, new record...the requirement for hunters safety only applies to those born after January 1, 1966.

Sorry for the errors...my fault.
 

EBOLAVIRS

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I would be surprised if a non-resident activist ponies up the 6k. The resident fee of 600 is easily doable. Up the non-resi and resi tag fees to 10k, take the activists money with a smile and use it to fund more hunting opportunities. 10k is still cheap for a grizzly hunt.
 

shootbrownelk

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I would be surprised if a non-resident activist ponies up the 6k. The resident fee of 600 is easily doable. Up the non-resi and resi tag fees to 10k, take the activists money with a smile and use it to fund more hunting opportunities. 10k is still cheap for a grizzly hunt.
Up the RESIDENT fee to $10,000.00? I don't think so fella, non-resident maybe.
 

JimP

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I wouildn't worry too much about it since the odds of any of us hunters actually drawing a tag are way out there. And then to have perhaps one or two anti hunting people into that mix and the odds don't really get any better.
 

Bonecollector

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Up the RESIDENT fee to $10,000.00? I don't think so fella, non-resident maybe.
I agree shootbrownelk, residents should have it a easier. However, I do feel that the $600 resident fee is a bit light for this type of hunt. If the NONresident is $6,000 then make the resident fee $3,000. This is still a bargain and good for the fish and game department.
 

Bonecollector

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I wonder how many people are going to apply that can't afford the tag fee? Any penalty for that?
I have not researched this particular tag and the entire process, but couldn't they have you apply and add a credit card number to the file to be charged immediately if your name is drawn? If the card is declined, you would never know and the next name is drawn and card charged until the quota is met...
Just a thought
 

wy-tex

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It is a tag not a list to hunt when opportunity arises. If you draw 7 you get a tag , 1-6 is the list they call when bear are available to hunt.
 

fackelberry

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Basically what Wy-Tex said. Area 7 if you get drawn you WILL get a tag and go on a hunt. The other areas 1 through 6 is like the old way they did buffalo tags. They will assign random numbers to those people in the draw that put in for area1-6. If your number is 1-10 you wiil probably get the chance to go Grizzly hunting as long as you provide a hunter safety card if required and the tag fee within 10 days of when they call you. But hold on, I think they are only letting 2 people go at a time in those areas and they will have to carry a satelite phone to contact game and fish when they kill a bear. If one kills a male they will call the next guy in line to go bear hunting. If by chance one of the first 2 guys kills a female in area 1-6, the Grizzly hunt is over for everyone in those areas. So pray that if you get a tag and your not one of the first 2 to hunt that the guys going before you know what a female looks like or you won't even get a chance to pony up the money and hunt.
 

WY ME

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I spoke to a Warden yesterday about the amount of hunters in the woods and there will only be one hunter allowed since they reduced the female quota from 2 to 1.
 

fackelberry

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I spoke to a Warden yesterday about the amount of hunters in the woods and there will only be one hunter allowed since they reduced the female quota from 2 to 1.
I gotcha, if thats the case there should be no reason to hurry and shoot one if you arent 100% sure its not a male. you will have NO competition from the other Grizzly hunters. If a female gets shot before the quota of males gets shot, i would be upset if i was supposed to be one of the few hunters. Should be really no excuse to shoot a female then.
 

HighPlainsHunter

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So if I understand this correctly if a hunter in 1-6 shoots a female he is not only going to be hated by the non hunting community for killing a female bear he is also going to be disliked by the hunting community for ending the bear hunt, especially those who were next in line.

Would not want to be that guy.
 

fackelberry

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So if I understand this correctly if a hunter in 1-6 shoots a female he is not only going to be hated by the non hunting community for killing a female bear he is also going to be disliked by the hunting community for ending the bear hunt, especially those who were next in line.

Would not want to be that guy.
Yepper, i think there is a 10 male quota or 1 female which ever comes first. So if all goes well and they have shot 9 males and your the 10th guy you can have your choice of a male or female then. Wouldn't matter at that point.
 

mntnguide

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Yepper, i think there is a 10 male quota or 1 female which ever comes first. So if all goes well and they have shot 9 males and your the 10th guy you can have your choice of a male or female then. Wouldn't matter at that point.
There is a 12 bear quota... and i highly doubt it will make it to all 12 hunters. I have spent countless hours watching Grizzlies around here in what would be legal hunting areas, and aside from having cubs, telling the difference between a big sow or big boar at rifle range... good luck. Whoever shoots the sow will make people mad on both sides, but that is why this plan isn't perfect, but at least we are having a season

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WY ME

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It'll be a bummer but I fully expect that the season will close from the female quota being filled before the male quota is reached. It can be difficult for an inexperienced grizzly bear hunter, like me, to be 100 % sure if the bear is a boy or girl until you turn it over.