Typos! Ebj page 21, what state was the deer killed in nv or co?

elkmo41

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Hire a local JUCO english major and have them proof read the dang thing.....getting old!

Remove copy and past from your computers...."a real up and comer!"

Lastly, where did the "no fences here" motto go? I could care less if it scored 1000" if it was taken on private land.
 

hoshour

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It should be CO. He was from NV.

Not every feature story in the journals takes place on public land, nor has that ever been promised. The vast majority is on public land, but there are exceptions.

On the other hand, your tone is not at all in keeping with the respect that we all give each other on the forum. I am not the moderator, but more posts in that offensive tone will likely get you kicked off here - not your criticism, but your tone.
 

elkmo41

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It should be CO. He was from NV.

Not every feature story in the journals takes place on public land, nor has that ever been promised. The vast majority is on public land, but there are exceptions.

On the other hand, your tone is not at all in keeping with the respect that we all give each other on the forum. I am not the moderator, but more posts in that offensive tone will likely get you kicked off here - not your criticism, but your tone.
That was offensive? But you do agree with me...

hoshour
01-09-2014, 08:28 PM
The amount of errors in general (every issue) is what made me switch to Western Hunter.

You might want to take another look. The number of errors in the magazines is down dramatically over the last year.

As far as errors you believe are in the MRS sections, why not provide them with specific feedback so they can correct them instead of coming on their own forum and bashing them?

http://forum.eastmans.com/archive/index.php/t-6197.html
 

ivorytip

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I'm curious as to why some miss spelled words would upset someone? like MM said in an earlier post, as long as I get the jest of it I'm good to go. I could care less if a few words are misspelled. and giving the wong stait is no issue at all. what does it matter if the wrong state was given? Eastmans is a 1st class magazine and IMO the best one out there for the western hunter. I don't read it looking for spell errors or grammer issues. I read it to share the excitement with the authors stories and success. even in best selling books and novels you will find the ocassional misspelled word. who cares?? ocassional have one s or two? means same thing though? ok. sorry elkmo4, I'm just confused what the real issue here is. certainly cant be worth the time is it? sincere question.
 

tdub24

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I'm curious as to why some miss spelled words would upset someone? like MM said in an earlier post, as long as I get the jest of it I'm good to go. I could care less if a few words are misspelled. and giving the wong stait is no issue at all. what does it matter if the wrong state was given? Eastmans is a 1st class magazine and IMO the best one out there for the western hunter. I don't read it looking for spell errors or grammer issues. I read it to share the excitement with the authors stories and success. even in best selling books and novels you will find the ocassional misspelled word. who cares?? ocassional have one s or two? means same thing though? ok. sorry elkmo4, I'm just confused what the real issue here is. certainly cant be worth the time is it? sincere question.
Well played! LMAO....I too read the articles and look at the pictures not giving two f***s if there are grammar errors. I get excited over other folks' stories as well as learn on different strategies every now and again.
 
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hoshour

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If you think the journals have a lot of errors, that tells me you have not been a regular reader recently and you're just going on an old reputation, that like most reputations, unfortunately dies hard, no matter the current facts.

There has been a great deal of time and attention going into proofreading since I have been at Eastmans', and this is my fourth year. I was actually hired to do the proofreading back then because I wrote in and complained about too many typos in what was otherwise my favorite magazine. Before you know it, I was the new proofreader.

Since then, I have taken on additional duties but I still proofread every single word of EHJ and another person does EBJ. I read each story and article two or three times with breaks in-between so I can catch things better. The articles I write I have others proofread after me. After that, several other people proofread the journals once they are in their final format.

In addition to that, we have worked to standardize things, to change processes that are more likely to produce errors and made other improvements I won't go into now.

We take proofreading so seriously that on this issue we just sent to the printers, in addition to all the story and article proofeading, I spent probably 25 hours just going through the MRS tables in depth, going back to the original reports and doing spot checks on just about every column, asking for change when I ran across an error, asking for rewording or clarifications and good footnotes.

You say hire a JUCO proofreader? I'm a writer and editor with two advanced degrees and two professional certifications. I think that exceeds your request.

Occasionally, you will still find a random error. Hey, I read the Wall St. Journal, one of the world's great newspapers, every day, and occasionally find errors there too. Then I read what people post online (your own first post has a typo) and articles on the internet and I find frequent errors. There's a reason many magazines and newspapers have a small corrections section somewhere.

It is almost impossible to put out a journal with 20-30,000 words per issue and have a 0% error rate, but we come very, very close,and it ticks me off to hear people say the journals are full of errors and typos. It is simply not true anymore.

You may also find an error sometimes in the huge tables we put together that often run well over 2,000 bits of information in each table. We (myself in particular) always welcome someone pointing out an error and we fix those in the digital version and for the MRS Annual. But, we much prefer an email instead of someone getting on the forum with the kind of comment you posted. It's inflammatory and unnecessary. You found a two-letter typo. Congratulations. If that ruined the magazine for you, I just don't know what to say other than some people really get off on finding faults and like to shout criticisms as loud as they can. That, I just don't get.

I don't know of any all-around higher quality hunting magazines than the Eastmans' journals. We have heard many times from companies that they want to advertise in the journals expressly because of the quality they see there. And, if you've noticed, more advertisers have been coming on board the last few years.

Bottom line - we have very few errors anymore and we work very hard to make it that way. The satisfaction I get from knowing that they are high quality and the emails we get from the occasional reader that writes in to say thanks are enough for me to not get rattled when someone for some reason wants to crow about an error they found somewhere.
 

ElkTrout

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Eastman's is the best publication out there in my opinion! So what if a few mistakes are made! Jeez, I make mistakes daily! After all, I am only human! Thanks again Eastman's!!!!


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Work2hunt

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I'll be honest typos bug me when I read newspapers and magazines. But, that's mostly because I'm a detail oriented, anal retentive type. So, I understand that we all make mistakes, me included, and just let it go.
 

go_deep

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First world problems! Raising cain about a misprint in a magazine. Imagine how different the world would be if all the effort of pissing and moaning went into something good.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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I was a Program Manager with over 100 engineers working for me. I remember a young engineer who made a couple of mistakes in his calculations and was really down about it. I told him that my philosophy was if you never make a mistake, you are not doing anything. The important thing was to learn from your mistakes and heaven help you if you made the same mistake again! LOL

Mistakes happen and everyone makes them, even if they don't admit to it.
 

Ikeepitcold

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We are all human, mistakes happen.
Our editors spell check and verify all of the story's. They are not perfect and to be honest I haven't met a perfect person in my life. Things happen and get by our editors to print but as this thread proves our readership care about the content and the info that is in all of the EHJ and EBJ and if some mistakes happen, well we won't be crucified for it.
 
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