buckbull
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Transfer of Public Lands
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highplainsdrifter
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There are some strong feelings here...fortunately we agree on the importance of our federal lands.
To lighten things up a bit, I'd like to suggest a split Democrat/Republican ticket for president...Sanders and Trump. Sanders wants to provide free health care for all Americans. And Trump could get Mexico to pay for it
Now that's funny.I'd like to suggest a split Democrat/Republican ticket for president...Sanders and Trump. Sanders wants to provide free health care for all Americans. And Trump could get Mexico to pay for it
SunnyInCO
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Honestly with the craziness this political cycle, that might be just the "ticket" (or some variation) to win the election this year.To lighten things up a bit, I'd like to suggest a split Democrat/Republican ticket for president...Sanders and Trump. Sanders wants to provide free health care for all Americans. And Trump could get Mexico to pay for it
Fieldmouse
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Very legitimate fear since we owe them a trillion +/-.
Interesting enough, I looked this up and found the land value owned by the federal government was only something like 1/2trillion if I recall correctly. Scary when you realize we're almost 20 trillion in debt on paper and well over 100trillion in unfunded entitlements.
Just something to think about: They're already heavily invested in O&G and increasing interest as companies shuffle assets and pick up new investors for working capital......... minerals rights generally trump the surface rights.
Fieldmouse
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Exactly, but my bigger fear is when SS and Medicare go belly up in less than a decade from now. How long before those who are short changed in those programs say, hey instead, I will take 40 acres and a mule?
oneye
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highplainsdrifter
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oneye
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highplainsdrifter
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Transfer proponents are trying a new tactic. They want to transfer law enforcement powers currently held by the Forest Service and BLM to county sheriffs. If federal officials lose the power to enforce their rules, that could be a game changer...and transfer proponents know it. I wonder how many sheriff office's have "enthusiasm" to enforce federal law?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4751/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Chaffetz%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=1
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4751/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Chaffetz%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=1
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highplainsdrifter
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Here is another petition against the transfer of federal lands. It is being circulated by a diverse group of rock climbers, bicyclists, rafters, etc. Let's give them our support.
http://www.protectourpublicland.org/
http://www.protectourpublicland.org/
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SunnyInCO
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Wondering how the Cruz dropping out of the white house bid is going to affect the pro-transfer proponents? Now that he is back in the Senate will this be a main focus of his and will he be able to gain more congressional support? Probably not enough to override a veto but could it be enough to affect funding for our public lands?
highplainsdrifter
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I would rather have him in the senate than the White House. He is generally despised in the senate, so I don't think he will carry a lot of weight. But the transfer battle is not over by a long shot.
highplainsdrifter
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Here is more information about Trump's position on federal land transfer.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3863946-155/donald-trump-sweep-of-republican-fiel
He is against large scale transfer but apparently would consider limited transfer around hemmed in towns. He also wants more local input into management. Overall, it is a substantial improvement compared to the traditional GOP rhetoric on the subject.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3863946-155/donald-trump-sweep-of-republican-fiel
He is against large scale transfer but apparently would consider limited transfer around hemmed in towns. He also wants more local input into management. Overall, it is a substantial improvement compared to the traditional GOP rhetoric on the subject.
I saw this on tv a couple of years ago. It will show you that Trump doesn't give a $**t about local input. It's about how he royaly screwed the people of Scotland.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;
highplainsdrifter
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highplainsdrifter
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I have some concerns about Trump as well. In February, in response to a Nevada Cruz advertisement accusing Trump of being in favor of federal land ownership, Trump said: “Something to do with federal lands, and Donald Trump supports the federal government, and the lands,” Mr. Trump said. “I don’t even know what the hell they are talking about.”
Trump had the opportunity to stand federal lands proud. Instead, he played dumb.
We need to keep pushing him to take a firmer public stand on the issue. The link to the story I posted earlier today is a step in the right direction. Trump's position on federal lands is better than Cruz's.
Politicians are notoriously untrustworthy. Do you remember this: "If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance!"
Trump had the opportunity to stand federal lands proud. Instead, he played dumb.
We need to keep pushing him to take a firmer public stand on the issue. The link to the story I posted earlier today is a step in the right direction. Trump's position on federal lands is better than Cruz's.
Politicians are notoriously untrustworthy. Do you remember this: "If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance!"