Wolf killed in Kremmling Colorado!

[ElkTrout]

I don't know if you any of you heard the rumors of a wolf being killed in Colorado this spring. It was killed by a legal Hunter that was hunting coyotes on April 29. He immediately called the CPW once he realized it was a wolf. They took the animal for DNA testing and said the hunter may face charges pending the outcome of the DNA results!
Well today they officially announced that it was indeed a gray wolf! It will be interesting to see how this one all plays out. Even though those of us in Colorado already knew they were here, it will be interesting to see what the governments explanation will be.


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[sneakypete]

I read that the other day and I forget where. I guess it'll be a wait and see?

 

[coloradoshedhead]

Just curious if calling the CPW was the right call? With the outcome of other states' wolf issues between ranchers herds and deer/elk populations? Also curious how many have been shot with nobody saying a word about it? There are lots of sheep/cattle ranchers in that part of the state that I know if they see a coyote, let alone a wolf, they would shoot no question. Anyhow I hope Colorado isn't the next Wyoming/Montana/Idaho where the deer and elk population get destroyed because of wolves.

 

[Hilltop]

Yeah I don't think I would have been in any hurry to call the state... I think the triple S method would apply in this instance.

 

[coloradoshedhead]

Yeah I don't think I would have been in any hurry to call the state... I think the triple S method would apply in this instance.

Is that like loose lips sink ships? wait, no that would be llss.

 

[Head in the Clouds]

Is that like loose lips sink ships? wait, no that would be llss.

Shoot, shovel, and shut up.

 

[Gr8bawana]

Shoot, shovel, and shut up.

^^^^this^^^^

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

I'll bet that CPW doesn't publicize this. Probably won't see it in the Denver Post either.

 

[alaska2go]

http://www.gohunt.com/read/identity-confirmed-wolf-shot-in-colorado

It is really too bad that the wolves are spreading like a virus.

 

[shootbrownelk]

One down. That's a start!

 

[ivorytip]

I hope that guy doesn't get any charges presses against him, you know he's already getting hate mail and death threats though. sss, is inly way to go unfortunately. but,,,,, nice shot!

 

[Colorado T]

I read this a week ago or so also and my first thought was "If it took the CPW to do DNA testing to verify how could they charge the hunter?"

 

[In God We Trust]

The CPW stance as far as I know has been " We don't have wolves in Colorado". If that is the case then he can't be charged because there are not wolves in Colorado. The CPW has kept their head buried in their ass knowing there are wolves moving through Colorado and not educating the public on it. If they charge him I hope thousands of hunters stand outside the CPW headquarters and let their displeasure be known. The guy did the right thing by contacting the authorities according to the letter of the law. The fact that they are even considering pressing charges is B.S and shows if you do the right thing you get burned. SSS is the only way to go.

 

[Manualman]

Didn't someone kill a wolf on RT 70 about 10 years ago? I think they've been keeping quiet for years about this

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Yep there were 2. One there and one near Steamboat. I believe the one on I-70 was hit by a car.

 

[tim]

here is another view to think about: poaching is ok if it is a predator, but not a "game" animal?

 

[ScottR]

If CPW admits they are there management will have to change a lot.


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[tim]

something else to think about when it comes to kill any wolf you see.

A couple where walking there dogs down a forest service road. A father tells his kid to shoot the wolf, the wolf ended up being a dog, the bullet also hit the second dog. The father and son helped the couple load the dog up into the couples truck. Wolf season had been closed for 2 months. A lot of dogs do look like wolves, especially from 200 yards.
this just occurred last weekend here in north Idaho.

 

[Head in the Clouds]

here is another view to think about: poaching is ok if it is a predator, but not a "game" animal?

That's largely my opinion as well.

It doesn't sound like the shooter intended to kill a wolf (he probably wouldn't have called the authorities if he did). So I don't think he should be charged for a mistake.

However, I also don't really understand the animosity toward wolves. I realize that they have greatly impacted game populations in some states but my understanding is that those are the reintroduced Canadian wolves while this was a grey wolf. Also, it seems to me that an animal that has been here longer than we have has a right to exist and probably more of a right than a few domestic sheep it would likely kill.

I'm all for the responsible management of predators and am not any sort of bunny hugger, this is just my wolf opinion.

On a similar note, I mentioned to someone recently that the extirpation of the American bison was one of the greatest wildlife tragedies of all time. The response I got was "but there's no where for them to live now". It seems short sighted to me, much the same as the common attitude toward native predator populations.

I suppose evolution probably taught the human mind to dislike resource competition.

 

[alaska2go]

That's largely my opinion as well.

It doesn't sound like the shooter intended to kill a wolf (he probably wouldn't have called the authorities if he did). So I don't think he should be charged for a mistake.

However, I also don't really understand the animosity toward wolves. I realize that they have greatly impacted game populations in some states but my understanding is that those are the reintroduced Canadian wolves while this was a grey wolf. Also, it seems to me that an animal that has been here longer than we have has a right to exist and probably more of a right than a few domestic sheep it would likely kill.

I'm all for the responsible management of predators and am not any sort of bunny hugger, this is just my wolf opinion.

On a similar note, I mentioned to someone recently that the extirpation of the American bison was one of the greatest wildlife tragedies of all time. The response I got was "but there's no where for them to live now". It seems short sighted to me, much the same as the common attitude toward native predator populations.

I suppose evolution probably taught the human mind to dislike resource competition.

Proper management is the KEY ! I personally seen what over abundant predators do to areas that once had lots of moose & caribou. It took about 5 years for wolves & grizzlies to kill most of the critters we hunted . We use to see 40 good bull moose and hundreds of caribou then it started to slip, and slip quickly. Then F&G started an aerial wolf hunt & baiting grizzlies so we are starting to see a come back.
Let's face it they are competition . If the state wants to make more money on game animals they have to take action against predators. Once an area is wiped out by predators it puts lots of pressure on other areas by hunters then in turn start wiping out that area. For example: The Mcgrath area had lots of moose & caribou and it was a short flight from anchorage to get there & non residents hunted there a lot. But, the wolves & bear population exploded and the moose & caribou have all but disappeared ..Thus leaving non residents just a couple of areas to hunt ie Kotzebue and that area is decreasing rapidly in game animals. Kotz area has went from 500,000 caribou to less than 250,000 in 8 years. Between wolves, bears, hunters & other natural occurrences the western artic heard is going to be gone also if something isn't done.

Now take a state like CO that is 15% the size of Alaska and in the NW corner where all the " trophy tags" that take 20 PP is going to be wiped out in no time if they don't do something with wolves migrating into their state.

Just my observation.