Wyoming Outfitter Killed by Bear
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mnhoundman
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This is a bad deal, need to start putting some fear into those things!
Second one in a week, hikers from Minneapolis were attacked by clay butte also
Second one in a week, hikers from Minneapolis were attacked by clay butte also
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cmbbulldog
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Mnbogboy
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Sad deal for sure! Hate to question anyone in that situation but Got to wonder about the client leaving the guide alone with the bear then leaving town so soon.
kesand72
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Naturebob
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Sadly, when I read that a red flag flew up in my head too. No one knows how one will react in a situation like that.I hope I never have to find out.
Prerylyon
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When will this madness stop?
We manage everything else in the ecosystem-manage large dangerous predators as well!
My prayers go out to this man's family and every family affected by grizzly bear predation-in any circumstances-a hunter retrieving his game, a hiker enjoying the back country, or rancher trying to make a living.
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We manage everything else in the ecosystem-manage large dangerous predators as well!
My prayers go out to this man's family and every family affected by grizzly bear predation-in any circumstances-a hunter retrieving his game, a hiker enjoying the back country, or rancher trying to make a living.
Regards,
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HighPlainsHunter
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Yes. This fella from Florida needs to explain his side of this as something does not sound right about this IMO. Why else would he high tail it out of Wyoming like that.
That client, Florida resident Corey Chubon, was able to phone authorities, was flown out of the wilderness and, despite injuries, is in good enough condition that he was flying out of Jackson Hole this afternoon.
Slugz
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I read and re read the article at dinner last night. Whole thing seems weird or poorly written by the reporter/author.
hoshour
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If I had been mauled by a grizzly in Wyoming and released from the hospital, my guide was dead and the elk lost, why in the world would I hang around? You can bet my family would want to see m ASAP and if I had given my statement to the authorities, I would be on the next flight home too.
Now, I do hate that the client wasn't capable of dispatching that attacking grizzly and threw the gun to the guide and ran. Obviously, the best thing would be for him to put a lethal shot in the grizzly with the pistol himself.
But you and I weren't there to see how it went down. Of course "if we had been there, we would have done it differently." And maybe some of us would.
But, a pistol is not the ideal weapon for that situation, better a shotgun with buckshot. And being mauled by a grizzly is just about the most terrifying thing in the world. He had just had hundreds of pounds of angry grizzly on him and taking his leg in his mouth.
I don't know if he thought the guide had a better chance with the gun than he did, whether panic set in, whether he thought that without the gun there was nothing to do but run, or what happened, but I'm not going to speculate from the comfort of my easy chair.
Maybe we'll find out, maybe we won't. It's a bad deal and terrible for Uptain's family. Dreams about their dad's last moments are going to haunt them for a long time.
Now, I do hate that the client wasn't capable of dispatching that attacking grizzly and threw the gun to the guide and ran. Obviously, the best thing would be for him to put a lethal shot in the grizzly with the pistol himself.
But you and I weren't there to see how it went down. Of course "if we had been there, we would have done it differently." And maybe some of us would.
But, a pistol is not the ideal weapon for that situation, better a shotgun with buckshot. And being mauled by a grizzly is just about the most terrifying thing in the world. He had just had hundreds of pounds of angry grizzly on him and taking his leg in his mouth.
I don't know if he thought the guide had a better chance with the gun than he did, whether panic set in, whether he thought that without the gun there was nothing to do but run, or what happened, but I'm not going to speculate from the comfort of my easy chair.
Maybe we'll find out, maybe we won't. It's a bad deal and terrible for Uptain's family. Dreams about their dad's last moments are going to haunt them for a long time.
HighPlainsHunter
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Thanks for the perspective from North Carolina.
From Wyoming I think the family of the victim probably deserve an explanation from this fella as to what happened. I personally would have felt an obligation to meet with them before leaving if I was the last person to see their dad/husband alive, but that's just me. I would also be present at the guides funeral, but again, that's just me.
hoshour
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OK, that's a good point I didn't think of, but don't give me snobbish crap about what state either of us lives in. People are not better, more respectful or more thoughtful in Wyoming than North Carolina.
In fact, I've never lived in a region of the country (the SE) where people were more thoughtful, more polite or where funerals were a bigger deal.
Hopefully, the man does circles back around to the family.
dirtclod Az.
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The way I read the article, and I could be wrong, was that the hunter left before anyone found the guide. The "update at noon" specified that the search was continuing but the hunter was leaving that afternoon. Again I don't know the situation, just seemed odd to me that you would leave before knowing the status of the guide.
Prerylyon
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Circumstances aside, the view from Iowa looks to me like this:
1. Grizzly bear population recovered
2. increasing Gizzly/human interactions causing loss of life and property
3. Management of the Grizzly population needed because of #1 and #2
I don't remember hearing about so many Grizzly attacks when I was a boy/young man. Yes, the internet speeds the pace of news up; but back then, we read the hunting magazines at the Barbershop and the hunting feature in the sports section of the newspaper growing up, and I don't remember hearing about so many attacks.
I hope progress can be made to allow an ethical, ecologically sound, management hunt that reduces the Grizzly population in WY such that less of these bear attacks occur.
Regards,
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1. Grizzly bear population recovered
2. increasing Gizzly/human interactions causing loss of life and property
3. Management of the Grizzly population needed because of #1 and #2
I don't remember hearing about so many Grizzly attacks when I was a boy/young man. Yes, the internet speeds the pace of news up; but back then, we read the hunting magazines at the Barbershop and the hunting feature in the sports section of the newspaper growing up, and I don't remember hearing about so many attacks.
I hope progress can be made to allow an ethical, ecologically sound, management hunt that reduces the Grizzly population in WY such that less of these bear attacks occur.
Regards,
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