Wyoming or Colorado 2015

squirrelduster

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My buddy and I are planning an archery elk hunt for next year. Neither of us really have the time to get away and do much scouting., maybe a trip a few weeks before if necessary.

Should we hire a guide, do a trespass fee hunt or just do a DIY like I have been doing but in a better area?
 

d.kerri

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My buddy and I are planning an archery elk hunt for next year. Neither of us really have the time to get away and do much scouting., maybe a trip a few weeks before if necessary.

Should we hire a guide, do a trespass fee hunt or just do a DIY like I have been doing but in a better area?
The "guide/trespass fee/DIY" question is one you really need to answer yourself. Do your chances of seeing more game go up if you hire a guide? I would sure hope so... Does private land received less pressure? For sure. Is there anything wrong with either of those? Absolutely not. Does a DIY experience [especially a kill] do something for a guy's soul that nothing compares to? Unquestionably. But the answer to this question needs to come from within yourself.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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The "guide/trespass fee/DIY" question is one you really need to answer yourself. Do your chances of seeing more game go up if you hire a guide? I would sure hope so... Does private land received less pressure? For sure. Is there anything wrong with either of those? Absolutely not. Does a DIY experience [especially a kill] do something for a guy's soul that nothing compares to? Unquestionably. But the answer to this question needs to come from within yourself.
Great answer
 

wapiti66

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There are definitely pros and cons to both. Be aware DIY Wyoming doesn't allow you to hunt wilderness unless you're a resident. But there is still tons of opportunity on BLM and NF. Less people in Wyoming. So IM going with BKC and Kodiak 32, Wyoming. :cool:
 

squirrelduster

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Thanks for the opinions.
I have 3 points for Wyoming but my buddy doesn't have any.
I have never hired a guide before and have only paid a trespass fee once and that was in Colorado for a rifle elk hunt with some friends. My first elk hunt and I shot a nice bull about 20 minutes into the 10 day hunt.
I have always done DIY but have not been successful on elk with a bow. My original plan was to keep hunting in Oregon and eventually find a decent area that actually holds elk and in the mean time gather points for Nevada, Utah, and Wyoming.
Wyoming is probably a great idea. I have been there antelope hunting and had a great time and the people are some of the nicest you will ever meet.
I will start doing my research this winter and locate a likely spot. If anyone has any recommendations feel free to pm me.
 

SansSouci

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Wyoming. Guide. If you're going to a new area and you don't have significant time to scout prior to opening day, finding a shooter bull will be difficult.
 

Mr.G

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When you say nr's can't hunt wilderness areas in Wyoming, what areas are you speaking of specifically? Looking at a Wyoming hunt in the next few years and trying to gather info as well.
 

Hilltop

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I think your available time should really determine your decision as well as what your real goals are. IMO, to have a decent chance at a DIY Wyoming archery bull, you need to be able to invest 7-14 days in a decent area. As a rookie to an area, the majority of your time will be spent just trying to find elk. The experience will be awesome but your opportunity for success will be 50/50 at best during your first year or two going to an area. Paying a trespass fee would typically eliminate the elk finding time but its still not a guarantee. And lastly, the guided hunts are a crap shoot for archery elk unless you pay big money. Some are great while others are not so great. During my years guiding public land archery elk we averaged 50-75% shot opportunity. That means that 25-50% of the guys paid big money to not even get a shot opportunity on a quality bull.

If I were giving a blue print for someone just getting started it wouldn't be a 1 year plan. My advice is to do some research into general areas that you can hunt year after year. Make it a yearly or every other year trip. Once you understand the animals and other hunter tendencies your opportunities will really increase.

If you really want a bull and you are just going once and don't intend on returning year after year, research and select a reputable guide with proven private land.

Good luck with your decision and sorry for rambling. Just my 2 cents
 

SansSouci

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I somewhat agree with Hilltop.

I think that area and guide expertise are the two dominant criteria of getting a shot at a shooter bull. If there are few-to-none quality elk in an area you plan to hunt, regardless of a guide's expertise, you will not get a shot at something that does not exist. If you're in a trophy elk unit but your guide lacks operating skill, it probably won't happen for you.

Research is crucial. Were it me, I'd go with a expertly skilled guide. You might spend a few years trying to figure out where shooter bulls are found. That could add up to many years' expenses just trying to find a shooter bull. Then there's the very real probability of odds going against you. Most if not all of the best trophy areas will take many years' bonus points just to have a decent chance of drawing a tag. Once you're drawn, it might be your only chance at a shot at a big bull. That's why I'd go with an expertly skilled guide.