WY Basic Application Info.

[velvet5]

Hey guys, a few questions. I just purchased an antelope and elk PP as i figured i might as well start my WY investment. Hopefully well worth the 50$ PP Elk and 30$ lope, per year investment when its all said and done. Anyway, can someone just briefly explain what some of WY's lingo is in terms of tag type 1,2, 4, 5, 9 ect or the difference between regular and "special" tags......just trying to get familiar with the WY system as this is the first time doing business with WY.
Thanks. -Donald

 

[ssliger]

Send me a PM with your e-mail. The wy game and fish just sent out an email yesterday explaining all the types. I'm sure Topgun or Wapiti Bob will explain the draw better, but here it goes. The tags are allotted pref special, then reg pref point. They also allot 25% to the random draw, which also goes thru the special first.

 

[Topgun 30-06]

When you have some time just click on this link for the application booklet. It will answer your questions and a lot more that you'll need to know:

http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/imgs/QRDocs/WGFD14_APPPACKET.pdf

 

[velvet5]

Thanks guys.

 

[velvet5]

So let me just make sure i get one things straight.......all the "special" means in special full price elk is that for an extra 480.......you basically get thrown into a pool with better odds. $480 for basically just better odds?
Thanks

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

So let me just make sure i get one things straight.......all the "special" means in special full price elk is that for an extra 480.......you basically get thrown into a pool with better odds. $480 for basically just better odds?
Thanks

Not necessarily better odds. You need to check previous years stats for the unit you are putting in for. Sometimes there can be MORE applications for fewer Special Tags and the odds can be worse than the normal draw. You really have to do your research.
Just sayin.....................

 

[ssliger]

So let me just make sure i get one things straight.......all the "special" means in special full price elk is that for an extra 480.......you basically get thrown into a pool with better odds. $480 for basically just better odds?
Thanks

Yes, more money and you get better odds. Some units can be drawn with 1 or 2 points in the special and require over 4 in the regular draw.

 

[PlainsHunter]

So let me just make sure i get one things straight.......all the "special" means in special full price elk is that for an extra 480.......you basically get thrown into a pool with better odds. $480 for basically just better odds?
Thanks

Most of the time the "special" has better odds- but as some of the other guys have said- look at the drawing odds history for both drawings (special and regular) and you find that sometimes a bunch of people go for the special drawing in certain units hoping for the better odds and the odds end up being worse than in the regular drawing. Rare, but it does happen.

If you like looking through numbers and guessing what others are going to do....then participating in Wyoming's draw system is pretty entertaining for a non-resident!

 

[OregonJim]

I'll throw in a some personal experience.
I failed to draw several times with max pts in the regular.
Screwed up and dropped a point a couple of years ago (net result max pts minus 1 subsequent years).
Last year (2013) my unit had about 40% odds in the special draw with minus one points. All the max folks drew in special.
Apparently a bunch of folks in my situation decided to apply for this unit in the special draw this year based on the published info.

For 2014, All the max point holders in the special drew and less than 40% max point holders drew in the regular.
Only 3 of 29 drew in the special drew with one less than max. A huge difference from the previous year.


So while research pays it is a good idea to think about what published results might do to the draw the next season.

 

[Cobbhunts]

These guys have done a good job answering your questions. I have to ask why you didn't buy a deer PP though?? I would just to get in the waiting line. Might as well! Best of luck whenever you get drawn.

 

[velvet5]

These guys have done a good job answering your questions. I have to ask why you didn't buy a deer PP though?? I would just to get in the waiting line. Might as well! Best of luck whenever you get drawn.

Well, honestly, i am 22 and in college.......so 40 bucks is a good little deal to me! Its true, but all kidding aside i am trying to be smart and making a big effort to start investing in my future. Hunting is my life so im trying to gather points. However, CA and ID (when i can get up there) supply the deer for me, so elk and antelope is what i really wanted to focus on for Wyoming since both species seem to be doing well in the state.........but....after reading and thinking, i just bought a deer PP just a few minutes ago because it is worth the money in the long run. Thanks for the help, guys. -Donald

 

[Cobbhunts]

Well, honestly, i am 22 and in college.......so 40 bucks is a good little deal to me! Its true, but all kidding aside i am trying to be smart and making a big effort to start investing in my future. Hunting is my life so im trying to gather points. However, CA and ID (when i can get up there) supply the deer for me, so elk and antelope is what i really wanted to focus on for Wyoming since both species seem to be doing well in the state.........but....after reading and thinking, i just bought a deer PP just a few minutes ago because it is worth the money in the long run. Thanks for the help, guys. -Donald

I can understand that man. Good thing you're young. I started nearly 10 years after you and wish I'd done some things differently. Good luck man!!

 

[velvet5]

I can understand that man. Good thing you're young. I started nearly 10 years after you and wish I'd done some things differently. Good luck man!!

Thank you for the kind words.

 

[velvet5]

Thank you for the kind words.

oh and by the way, what is the limit on non-resident antelope tags (buck and doe combined) is it possible to draw a buck tag then purchase two more does tags? or just one buck and one doe?

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Not sure, but I think it depends on the unit. In 2012 myself and my hunting partner bought a buck & 2 doe/fawn tags apiece. I remember in the 90's we could get as many as 6 if we wanted them!

 

[Topgun 30-06]

oh and by the way, what is the limit on non-resident antelope tags (buck and doe combined) is it possible to draw a buck tag then purchase two more does tags? or just one buck and one doe?

As long as they are available on the leftover list, you can have two buck (either sex) tags and four doe tags even though they are in the same unit. However, you can only apply for a buck tag and two doe tags in the draw itself. The other three or all six, if they are available, can be bought as leftovers.