Wolves Placed Back on Endangered List

[BuzzH]

Where does Defenders $$ come from: The organization listed contributors on its annual reports up through 2008. In addition to the Hewlett Foundation, donors of $100,000 or more have included the Bailey Wildlife Foundation, Biophilia Foundation, Doris Duke Charitable Foundation, Darcy and Richard Kopcho, The Henry Philip Kraft Family Memorial Fund, Wendy P. McCaw Foundation, The David and Lucile Packard Foundation, Park Foundation, Resources Legacy Fund Foundation, Bill and Alice Roe, Turner Foundation, Wilburforce Foundation, the MJ Murdock Charitable Trust, the New York Community Trust, and the Robert W. Wilson Charitable Trust.[16]
In 1999, the organization began using professional firms to assist in fundraising through telemarketing and direct mail. Donations that year rose 28 percent to a record $17.5 million, with net assets reaching a record $14.5 million.[17] Defenders of Wildlife listed $32,806,000[18] in revenue in its 2016 annual report, and $26,164,000 in net assets. According to tax documents, fundraising firms used by Defenders of Wildlife have included Donor Services Group, SCA Direct, Share Group, Harris Direct, Fineline, Public Interest Communications, and Production Solutions, Inc.[19]
Defenders of Wildlife maintains a permanent endowment fund, valued at $1,447,892, according to the latest figures available from 2015. Tax records show that in 2013, the total endowment fund was $7,730,724, with $6,283,584 in expenditures on facilities and programs.

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Sounds like they're well funded, organized, and all on the same page...everything the hunting/sporting community is not.

Buying a few tags a year is going all out and all they need to do for a vast majority of hunter/sportsmen. We cant rally behind the most basic causes, you know, like corner crossing.

Lesson there, too bad it won't be learned.

But lets continue to carry on about poaching wolves...sure winner.

 

[Prerylyon]

It will take some time, but as the reality of wolves not actually being endangered, but 'restored' settles in, and they spread closer to the exurbs, more people will eventually see what they can do as they interact with them: not just eating the weaker deer on some documentary in a far flung corner of Yellowstone in winter, but killing the goats supplying organic milk to the CSA share, or the sheep that provide wool to local knitters charity guild. Or worse yet, the family dog along for the weekend hike on the trail. It's a matter of time, and it won't be pretty, but folks might just figure it out once again, and just maybe, an ounce of common sense will prevail; and where wolves are restored, hunting will be an important, legal management tool. I think it's gonna take piles of dead pets and farmers lost stock in their backyard to convince these people that this world isn't a Disney movie.

 

[JimP]

Jeffery White was Appointed by GW Bush (R) in 2002....

Just because he was appointed by George W doesn't mean that he understands wildlife or just what is happening.

Remember George W also appointed Roberts to the Supreme Court and he has swung more to the left than to the right in my opinion

 

[BuzzH]

Just because he was appointed by George W doesn't mean that he understands wildlife or just what is happening.

Remember George W also appointed Roberts to the Supreme Court and he has swung more to the left than to the right in my opinion

Just pointing out it wasn't a "liberal" that appointed him, and that most like to shoot their mouths with the blame game, before they research anything.

I would argue that its pretty damn likely there aren't many judges that understand wildlife no matter who appointed them, which isn't their job. Their job is to interpret the law, and that they do, about all kinds of subjects they aren't experts of.

Just because this guy doesn't agree with your position on wolves doesn't make him a liberal, or a dem, or anything else. He's a judge, and he looks at the law.

 

[kidoggy]

No wolf is going to survive me or almost every one of my friends. If we can't legally hunt them, then we will illegally kill them... every single one of them. Screw the courts and the wolf loving DNR. They have had their chances at regulated hunting. No more.

while I agree with your sentiment, I cannot agree with this action.

I had many chances to SSS in Idaho in the past 30 years.
in the end I restrained myself. not out of fear of being caught but because I was raised two wrongs don't make a right.

either I believe in the rule of law, or I do not!

in the end I just couldn't justify breaking a law simply because I disagreed with said law.
not when we have a constitution in place that makes provisions for changing those laws, we believe are wrong.

in my mind, my laziness to use that means does not give me the right to break a law.

if you really want to beat this nonsense in to the ground, organize like the libs do and get it done.
it took many years and millions in Idaho, but we now have a yearlong season.

why?

because folks stepped up and fought for it in the courts. even if you can't be on the front line, you CAN support those who are!
had we all just done the SSS thing, we still would have no season!

jmho! do what you will.

last thing I will say on this is .........
if you decide to go the SSS route, I wouldn't go around posting your intentions on the net!
it is not wise!
frankly if I wound up on your jury, you WOULD be found guilty.
for the same reasons I posted above.

don't do the crime if you can't do the time/pay the fine

 

[Extractor]

while I agree with your sentiment, I cannot agree with this action.

I had many chances to SSS in Idaho in the past 30 years.
in the end I restrained myself. not out of fear of being caught but because I was raised two wrongs don't make a right.

either I believe in the rule of law, or I do not!

in the end I just couldn't justify breaking a law simply because I disagreed with said law.
not when we have a constitution in place that makes provisions for changing those laws, we believe are wrong.

in my mind, my laziness to use that means does not give me the right to break a law.

if you really want to beat this nonsense in to the ground, organize like the libs do and get it done.
it took many years and millions in Idaho, but we now have a yearlong season.

why?

because folks stepped up and fought for it in the courts. even if you can't be on the front line, you CAN support those who are!
had we all just done the SSS thing, we still would have no season!

jmho! do what you will.

last thing I will say on this is .........
if you decide to go the SSS route, I wouldn't go around posting your intentions on the net!
it is not wise!
frankly if I wound up on your jury, you WOULD be found guilty.
for the same reasons I posted above.

don't do the crime if you can't do the time/pay the fine

Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. Wolves best stay away.
I can respect your stance for you.
Everyone can decide what their level of tolerance for wolves and fines are and go from there.
Ranchers and farmers in Wisconsin are left out in the cold by the government, horses, sheep, cattle harassed and killed with no recourse?
I don't think so.
This is now simply civil disobediance.
The courts continue to fail the public due to Libtard money from city slickers who would'nt tolerate a wolf anywhere near them.
They set a goal, the Wisconsin DNR, of 350 wolves. We have anywhere from 1250 to 3000 depending on who you believe. Our DNR stinks, they have been dragging their feet for the past decade on setting a new management plan for wolves, hence the law suit last year to force a wolf season, which the DNR lost.
200 wolves killed in 4 days.
How is that possible with only 350 wolves in the state???
You can't kill a wolf? You can't break a raptor egg? But throw an unborn 6 month old human baby in the dumpster, no problem.
When is it enough?
When is it enough?
When is it enough?

 

[Bonecollector]

Just pointing out it wasn't a "liberal" that appointed him, and that most like to shoot their mouths with the blame game, before they research anything.

I would argue that its pretty damn likely there aren't many judges that understand wildlife no matter who appointed them, which isn't their job. Their job is to interpret the law, and that they do, about all kinds of subjects they aren't experts of.

Just because this guy doesn't agree with your position on wolves doesn't make him a liberal, or a dem, or anything else. He's a judge, and he looks at the law.

1 Bush was a rhino. Unfortunately the lesser of two evils at the time.
2 Judges no longer interpret the law according to the constitution. You can see this on a daily basis.

 

[BuzzH]

1 Bush was a rhino. Unfortunately the lesser of two evils at the time.
2 Judges no longer interpret the law according to the constitution. You can see this on a daily basis.

Shouldn't be tough, for a law expert such as yourself, to show us all where the rhino appointed judge broke the constitution in this case.

Waiting...

 

[badgerbob]

Jeffery White was Appointed by GW Bush (R) in 2002....

And that is why we need to stop calling them Republicans and Democrats...they are Liberals or Conservatives no matter what else they claim to be.......

 

[Bonecollector]

Shouldn't be tough, for a law expert such as yourself, to show us all where the rhino appointed judge broke the constitution in this case.

Waiting...

You’re not worth the time. Off to work I go
Have a good day

 

[kidoggy]

Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. Wolves best stay away.
I can respect your stance for you.
Everyone can decide what their level of tolerance for wolves and fines are and go from there.
Ranchers and farmers in Wisconsin are left out in the cold by the government, horses, sheep, cattle harassed and killed with no recourse?
I don't think so.
This is now simply civil disobediance.
The courts continue to fail the public due to Libtard money from city slickers who would'nt tolerate a wolf anywhere near them.
They set a goal, the Wisconsin DNR, of 350 wolves. We have anywhere from 1250 to 3000 depending on who you believe. Our DNR stinks, they have been dragging their feet for the past decade on setting a new management plan for wolves, hence the law suit last year to force a wolf season, which the DNR lost.
200 wolves killed in 4 days.
How is that possible with only 350 wolves in the state???
You can't kill a wolf? You can't break a raptor egg? But throw an unborn 6 month old human baby in the dumpster, no problem.
When is it enough?
When is it enough?
When is it enough?

your own post proves there is recourse.

sure, it took folks a decade to get off their duffs but when they finally did, they won and got their season. no civil disobedience was required.

sure, the fight will never be over, but we do have a system in place to correct wrongs. people are simply too lazy to use it.
that, and they have been programmed from birth that you can't fight city hall.
you can but few will!

while I do sympathize with your anger and disgust civil disobedience will ultimately hinder not aide your cause.

 

[BuzzH]

You’re not worth the time. Off to work I go
Have a good day

I didn't have to work today, celebrated Presidents day in style. Left the house this morning about 8:30, was all loaded up and headed home by Noon:

Fair to middlin'....

Had to take a break for a shot of coffee:

Darn near done out of the first hole:

And limit:

 

[tim]

It it matters, i did see 2 idaho wolves catching a ride home on a snowmobile saturday. Guy trapped them, 2 that weekend, 3 the weekend before.

some people talk about poaching, others go and trap them. What i have observed here in idaho is, trapping is the most efficient method of killing wolves.

 

[kidoggy]

but calling is the most fun.

trappers have to work !