Wolfs in CA

ore hunter

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welcome ca to the wolf ,,it wont take long and your g and f people will collar it and spend lots of money mailing out updates on the critters just like Oregon now does with our big game and tax dollars..they don't spend the money on the deer and elk that us hunters spend our tag money on.
 

Ikeepitcold

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Cali is a lost cause. They had protections for wolves before wolves were there. Imagine how quickly that little pack in Shasta will grow in size. My fear is that the sierras will be next down near Reno/Tahoe. There goes the trophy bucks of the Mt. Rose tags.
True statement rite there. And what's going to happen when they get to Ely and the north eastern part of Nv? No more elk, but I will say this, Nv ranchers will SSS on everyone they see.
 

JasonGNV

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True statement rite there. And what's going to happen when they get to Ely and the north eastern part of Nv? No more elk, but I will say this, Nv ranchers will SSS on everyone they see.
I do believe NV will handle it differently than Cali. for sure. The major difference is we will have a management plan and not protections. I personally would love a wolf hide on the wall but would rather travel somewhere else to get it. If they are popping up near the Grand Canyon you know they are here.!
 

Kevin Root

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I do believe NV will handle it differently than Cali. for sure. The major difference is we will have a management plan and not protections. I personally would love a wolf hide on the wall but would rather travel somewhere else to get it. If they are popping up near the Grand Canyon you know they are here.!
Agreed, Nevada is in far better shape on the political game management level than what we have in California. Not only can you still hunt mountain lion with hounds but you are the only state I know of that can do it when the season is open, 24 hours a day. And you still can use hounds hunting bear. What frustrates me with California is not so much that we have wolves, and a whole lot of mountain lions but it's the politics that go with it all here. The politics here just chip away at our heritage, hunting, and trapping methods and being able to use hunting as a conservation tool like so many other states have in place to conserve all our awesome animals. Our state's politics have perfected useing the endangered species act to remove hunting or useing humans as a management tool. It's what I fear more than the wolves here.
 

JasonGNV

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Agreed, Nevada is in far better shape on the political game management level than what we have in California. Not only can you still hunt mountain lion with hounds but you are the only state I know of that can do it when the season is open, 24 hours a day. And you still can use hounds hunting bear. What frustrates me with California is not so much that we have wolves, and a whole lot of mountain lions but it's the politics that go with it all here. The politics here just chip away at our heritage, hunting, and trapping methods and being able to use hunting as a conservation tool like so many other states have in place to conserve all our awesome animals. Our state's politics have perfected useing the endangered species act to remove hunting or useing humans as a management tool. It's what I fear more than the wolves here.
The sad thing is that most game wardens that ive spoken to in Cali feel the same. The science is right in front of them but the politics and emotions over power common sense. I spoke with a warden over 4th of July that is flat out embarrassed by the Cali laws. He's in charge of an area that has tons of bear, lions and bobcat and can't do anything unless they become a threat. From what I've experienced the guys in the field see it and know. It lays mainly on the politicians that never leave the sidewalk who are bought and paid for. Until the people in the political power spots get booted, Cali will continue to spiral downward, fast!
 

shootbrownelk

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I do believe NV will handle it differently than Cali. for sure. The major difference is we will have a management plan and not protections. I personally would love a wolf hide on the wall but would rather travel somewhere else to get it. If they are popping up near the Grand Canyon you know they are here.!
Nevada may indeed have a management plan, but wolves are Federally protected....no shooting the cuddly little fur-balls. They only eat the sick and the weak, and the young and the old and the healthy. I'm surprised the Feds haven't come up with a "Adopt a Wolf" scheme yet, to raise money to transplant them to other Wolf-Less States whether they want them or not.
 

Sawfish

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That is the funny thing, the majority on the west live in one of the big major cities and spend no time near wildlife yet make all the decisions for rural communities.
And the majority of politicians grew up working in politics, and have never held a regular job, yet they make all of the decisions that affect those who work for a living (aka the "working minority"). Since we have such an abundance of incompetence, perhaps it should be our major export.
 

dirtcurt

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"This news is exciting for California,” Fish and Wildlife Director Charlton Bonham said in a prepared statement.

I'm not sure exciting is the right word. Wolves will end up costing the California Fish and Wildlife a ton of revenue from hunting license fees when the state has no animals left to hunt.

When they changed the name to "Fish And Wildlife" I knew it was over. In the last 5 years in d-7 and d-8 I have seen more mountain lions than legal bucks. This year in d-7 I saw another mountain lion. I could not sss because it was gone about the time I figured out what it was. I walked and walked, and walked in the Edison Lake area to the point that I was excited to see a TRACK! It is a tough zone and now we will have wolves. I hope by 2019 I will be gone from this state.
 

EBOLAVIRS

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The sad thing is that most game wardens that ive spoken to in Cali feel the same. The science is right in front of them but the politics and emotions over power common sense. I spoke with a warden over 4th of July that is flat out embarrassed by the Cali laws. He's in charge of an area that has tons of bear, lions and bobcat and can't do anything unless they become a threat. From what I've experienced the guys in the field see it and know. It lays mainly on the politicians that never leave the sidewalk who are bought and paid for. Until the people in the political power spots get booted, Cali will continue to spiral downward, fast!
Don't let them fool you. They say one thing to the hunting public's face to keep the relationships positive, but on paper, in meetings, and to their bosses, they will support the spread of wolves and grizzlys. Same as they have the protection of lions.
 

Sawfish

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Don't let them fool you. They say one thing to the hunting public's face to keep the relationships positive, but on paper, in meetings, and to their bosses, they will support the spread of wolves and grizzlys. Same as they have the protection of lions.
Job Security! Most of them know that folks who rock the boat usually end up in the water!