We've come a long way..........

Colorado Cowboy

Super Moderator
Jun 8, 2011
8,348
4,741
83
Dolores, Colorado
The other day I was in my reloading/hunting equipment shop cleaning up some gear I had put off doing. Looking at all the stuff I have accumulated over the years got me thinking.

I started hunting in 1948 when I was 7 years old. I started out shooting a circa 1920's Eastern Arms single shot 20ga for doves and ducks. I also had a Winchester M67 single shot .22 rifle. I still have them both. No real specialized hunting clothing except for a pair of leather lace up boots and a canvas hunting vest.

Today there is specialized equipment for everything we use for hunting. The evolution of everything we use has been mind blowing! Everything you can think of such as guns, ammo, optics, footwear, clothing and even underwear has improved and it's been overwhelming. We take for granted the quality and durability of our "stuff".

Has it made us any better hunters? My Grandfather would probably say no, because he could never imagine the quality and innovative things we take for granted. I think I have experienced this evolution and appreciate what we have. I remember when I thought surplus WWII stuff was the best ever...some still is pretty good. But today we have things that are here because of the race to the moon and our desire to have the best and people who are willing to invest time and money to supply us. Technology has had it's consumer spinoffs.

Next time you get out your gps, pull on you wonderful boots or dress in your advanced textile, camo clothes, think about what you would do if they were suddenly to disappear.

Just thinkin a little about times gone bye.
 

dirtclod Az.

Veteran member
Jan 26, 2018
1,637
446
Arizona
Used my garmin GPS on the Kiabab and it was sending me west instead of where my basic instincts told me camp was.Looked at the sun,and then my compass,and continued south to where I thought camp was.Two ridges later camp was in sight.GPS said camp was 1/2 mile back.Gave my GPS to a "friend" I don't hunt with anymore.Bought a new unit,but always carry two compass'.If I can see the sun or the stars I can usually find home.Like Pat McManus said,I have been confused for a couple of days but never lost!!.RIP Patrick.
 

JimP

Administrator
Mar 28, 2016
7,316
8,696
72
Gypsum, Co
I have a lot of those fancy play toys such as a GPS, range finder, the turret dope on a scope but when it comes right down to it I mostly rely on my instincts a lot more than the instruments. I once watched a couple of hunters in our party miss the truck and walk 3 miles past it until they got to a paved road, it was then that they figured that they had gone too far.

On the reloading stuff I can also see all the fancy equipment, but what more do you need than a Lee hand press and some dippers for the powder? But ain't it fun having all those other toys.
 

HogsFly

Active Member
Apr 8, 2018
298
0
Parker, Colorado
Sometimes you need to do a full circle to figure out where you need to be. I have taken two of my fancy BDC turrets off similar fancy rifles, and converted them back to strictly MOA. Simple.

Similar to when the first officer tells me we need to do a 360 and get the Heck out of here..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

kidoggy

Veteran member
Apr 23, 2016
9,847
10,860
58
idaho
i'd hate to see the camo clothes disappear.

wouldn't want to be anywhere near a mtn full of necked hunters.

technology is great for sure but I suspect as a whole our hunting ABILITIES have probably suffered for it.

much the same as with the invent of calculators . have you seen the youngsters today trying to do math in their heads? most can't without overheating.
 
Last edited:

JimP

Administrator
Mar 28, 2016
7,316
8,696
72
Gypsum, Co
And I remember when I was back in school they wouldn't let us use slide rules saying that we needed to know how to do it on paper.
 

JimP

Administrator
Mar 28, 2016
7,316
8,696
72
Gypsum, Co
Me too. Funny ...I'm not sure I remember how to use a slide rule.
I actually found the one that I used back when I was in college a few months ago. It was interesting on how fast things came back to me doing calculations. I have a hard time reading it now but I was able to use it.
 

Timberstalker

Veteran member
Feb 1, 2012
2,242
6
Bend, Or
If all the new things available today clothes are what I find most useful to me. Not to many years ago I still hunter in Levi’s, I bought my first pair of Kuiu attack pants about five years ago and still have those Levi’s that I very rarely wear now. I still hunt with the same rifle I started with 35 years ago, I never got caught up in all the new long range stuff, I’m just not into all that. I use the same Lee reloading kit I started with 20 some years ago, it’s nothing fancy but works. I do have a scope with dots on the duplex on my .280 but to be honest have never needed them and they kind of annoy me. I’ve tried quite a few high end boots but have yet to find any that actually perform well enough to justify the price and have gone back to cheap boots.
Archery has become so technical that I can’t wven believe what people are doing with a bow and arrow. I’m still struggling to gain confidence past 35 yeards but just keep doing what I do because I don’t feel I need to shoot 100 yards to kill and elk.
I’m sure if I caught up with all the new stuff I might kill a few more animals, but at the end of the day I like to know I can still get it done the same way I did when I started hunting. I take pride in that way more than I do by having the latest greatest.
Nothing annoys me more than the idea that you need to be a super athlete to be an effective hunter. I’ve never been athletic but can outlast most I’ve hunted with. One step at a time, it’s not a race.
 
Last edited:

dirtclod Az.

Veteran member
Jan 26, 2018
1,637
446
Arizona
Started out with a recurve and won many tournaments,switched to a compound and killed a few animals.Missed on three 30yd. shots in the high wind on a large Javelina and was very frustrated.Back to a rifle when I can.Only thing OTC in Az. now is deer,and the drought has closed most opportunities to even do that.Going old school...Pellet gun and Bunnies/Urasian Doves.:cool:
 

HogsFly

Active Member
Apr 8, 2018
298
0
Parker, Colorado
This thread inspired me to KISS yesterday, for a range-day at Ft. Carson. My buddy brought his normal stuff, which there is so much stuff, we load it all into a cart affectionally named Mars Rover, so we don't have to make so many trips from the truck to the shooting positions. I brought my rifle, some fresh ammo, and a 100-yard target. No rangefinder, after all, the 100 yard target was still at 100 yards...and none of the steel targets have moved in years. No iPhone ballistic calculator app. Nothing. Verified zero at 100 yards. Then started shooting steel. Best comment of the day from my buddy, with a look of bewilderment: "You hit it!"

The KISS rifle used was a 1972 Rugger M77 chambered in 6mm Remington. The scope is a Leupold 2x7 Vari-X II. That's the most fun I've had at the range in a long time.

 
Last edited:

swampokie

Veteran member
Jul 29, 2013
1,165
92
46
Haworth Oklahoma
I would trade all technology for the days of flannel and 30-30s. I really am anti progressive I guess. Simpler life harder earned and harder taken I guess is what I long for.
 

CoHiCntry

Veteran member
Mar 31, 2011
1,390
21
Colorado Mountains
I would trade all technology for the days of flannel and 30-30s. I really am anti progressive I guess. Simpler life harder earned and harder taken I guess is what I long for.
I'm right there with you! As everyone else seems to be moving forward, I tend to be moving backwards. More traditional all the time...
 

Colorado Cowboy

Super Moderator
Jun 8, 2011
8,348
4,741
83
Dolores, Colorado
This thread inspired me to KISS yesterday, for a range-day at Ft. Carson. My buddy brought his normal stuff, which there is so much stuff, we load it all into a cart affectionally named Mars Rover, so we don't have to make so many trips from the truck to the shooting positions. I brought my rifle, some fresh ammo, and a 100-yard target. No rangefinder, after all, the 100 yard target was still at 100 yards...and none of the steel targets have moved in years. No iPhone ballistic calculator app. Nothing. Verified zero at 100 yards. Then started shooting steel. Best comment of the day from my buddy, with a look of bewilderment: "You hit it!"

The KISS rifle used was a 1972 Rugger M77 chambered in 6mm Remington. The scope is a Leupold 2x7 Vari-X II. That's the most fun I've had at the range in a long time.

Got one just like it, thumb safety too, only in 25-06. My main deer/antelope rifle for almost 50 years.