Glad someone finally had the huevos to put up the name of this clown. Those guys and gals of the tv hunting shows need to be held to a higher standard because unfortunatley they are what a lot of the non-hunting public think all hunters are like. They need to be called out when the use bad judgement and make us ALL look bad.
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buckbull
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I agree. He is a big proponent of keeping public lands public and is on the board for the RMEF. He doesn't just give conservation lip service; he is actively involved. Its nice to see a hunting show that doesn't always end up in a kill as well. His show seems to be about the hunt, not just the kill.
tim
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question for you guys, is it wrong to be disappointed in that you did not realize your personal goal? And have you ever gone back and done it.
I have not seen the show, and am just asking the question.
I have not seen the show, and am just asking the question.
tim,
certainly not wrong to be disappointed. But to say that bowhunters would rather a wounded animal get away than to be put down with a rifle...that's my issue with it. Miranda has several brown bears on his bowhunter resume'.
He apparently was okay with either walking away from that one or with putting himself and his guide in extreme danger following up a wounded bear so he could try and put more arrows into it.
Sorry, but a guy like him will never be welcomed in my hunting camps.
certainly not wrong to be disappointed. But to say that bowhunters would rather a wounded animal get away than to be put down with a rifle...that's my issue with it. Miranda has several brown bears on his bowhunter resume'.
He apparently was okay with either walking away from that one or with putting himself and his guide in extreme danger following up a wounded bear so he could try and put more arrows into it.
Sorry, but a guy like him will never be welcomed in my hunting camps.
tim
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I don't watch very many tv hunting shows either, but I do know who Tom Miranda is. Pretty sad deal.
Timberstalker
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I can't stomach many hunting shows. I recall this guy on a show several years back, I didn't care for him then, I really don't now. It amazes me how popular many of today's hunting shows are, very few are worth watching.
As laxwyo referred to earlier in this thread, examples like this make a person appreciate Eastmans' TV, even more. A few things I like most about Eastmans' are that they always respect the animal, try to showcase the beauty and variety of the country that western big game resides in, and put the emphasis on the hunt (and techniques and guidance on how to do it ethically and right) rather than on the kill. Certainly there is focus on looking for mature, top quality animals, but that comes with being perfectly ok letting tags go unfilled if the right opportunity doesn't arise... in other words, hunting and enjoying both the challenges and the rewards that hard effort provides.
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shootbrownelk
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I never cared much for Miranda after watching him "stalking" antelope on the Golf course in Wright, Wyoming. He's an asshat IMO.
shootbrownelk
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And to add AKaviator, the poor guy who stumbles upon a Grizzly with an arrow in it, and pissed-off at the world. I can't believe that anyone would do that. And all for bragging rights....he has no principles it seems. I never watched his shows much, a couple of times max, I won't watch another.
I used to really like Tom Miranda. He seemed like a true outdoorsman, and I would say I still have a ton more "respect" in a way for him than 99% of outdoor "celebrities". He cut his teeth grinding it out long line fur trapping in a crappy truck. He has been in the "industry" forever and is an accomplished bow hunter. He used to seem like the guy that was not a sell out or product slut. He sticks with his sponsors.
With that said, I saw him on a commercial a few months back for some fence product you can put on your property to block deer and get them to come by your stand. Looked like the exact same stuff as snow fence which is usually orange, but this was green, and wildly overpriced for the few hundred feet you got. I lost basically all respect for that. The thing that bothered me the most was that he has proven for decades that he is not the guy that needs to have a canned, guided hunt to be successful, and here he is advertising for a flippin' deer fence to funnel them to your stand. That, combined with the comment the OP is referring to is really sad.
Now days you just need a doe eyed bubble butted girlfriend/wife and 1000 acres in Iowa, and your gonna be in the big time after you knock down two 180" bucks. And be a product whore fame chaser to get your name out there. So many more better hunters that kill the same quality animals with so fewer resources and never look for any recognition. Saddens me that most armchair hunters think the guys on TV are the best hunters out there.
With that said, I saw him on a commercial a few months back for some fence product you can put on your property to block deer and get them to come by your stand. Looked like the exact same stuff as snow fence which is usually orange, but this was green, and wildly overpriced for the few hundred feet you got. I lost basically all respect for that. The thing that bothered me the most was that he has proven for decades that he is not the guy that needs to have a canned, guided hunt to be successful, and here he is advertising for a flippin' deer fence to funnel them to your stand. That, combined with the comment the OP is referring to is really sad.
Now days you just need a doe eyed bubble butted girlfriend/wife and 1000 acres in Iowa, and your gonna be in the big time after you knock down two 180" bucks. And be a product whore fame chaser to get your name out there. So many more better hunters that kill the same quality animals with so fewer resources and never look for any recognition. Saddens me that most armchair hunters think the guys on TV are the best hunters out there.
I've met a number of outdoor "celebrities" up here. Few have impressed me. Most waltz around expecting everything be given to them for free because of the "exposure" they can bring. I know a bunch of hunters that these "experts" could never even keep up with. I won't name names, but you'd know a lot of them.
One exception that I have heard of from an outfitter friend of mine is the Primo's brothers. They paid their way and were classy all the way! I have never met any of the Eastman's but I'd bet they are very classy as well.
One exception that I have heard of from an outfitter friend of mine is the Primo's brothers. They paid their way and were classy all the way! I have never met any of the Eastman's but I'd bet they are very classy as well.
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shootbrownelk
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So was Fred Bear, and he had principles and honor. It seems Miranda lacks both, but he's a good shot. So what.
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One thing I've learned in life is that there are always to sides to every story. I didn't see the show so I don't know the facts nor am I on either side. There could be more than meets the eye. Could it be that the guide took an unnecessary killed shot? I don't know, like I said I haven't seen the show. I do know I would be upset if guide gun shot an animal I had just made a great kill shot with archery and he just wanted to make sure. Now a marginal sub par shot is a different matter. Just to many factors involved for me to throw away a guy that has been an ethical sportsman for decades and not knowing all the facts. I am in no way defending unethical shots or hunting. I don't want any animal I hunt to suffer.
