US forest maps, Hunting camps??????

[dick56]

What is the deal with hunting camps being marked on the National Forest maps?I'm going to be hunting region H deer this year and scouting the area for a elk tag next year.I am looking to try to get my truck and trailer in as far as I can to eliminate drive by traffic and set up tent and then hike miles away to hunt each day.Is that possible or am I just wishing?I even seen where there is a gate right after a hunting camp???

 

[Musket Man]

Are you talking about campgrounds?

 

[dick56]

NO,I don't think so.If you look at the US Forest Service maps,(you can look at them online).I bought 4 maps from Jackson US Forest Service.The maps go by mountain ranges not by the state lines.You have to get an Idaho one to get detail on western side of Wyoming.It takes 4 maps to cover region H,they over lap.It is printed on the maps as a hunting camp not a camping site.It has me wondering,hunting camp on public property?

 

[Musket Man]

Can you post a link to see it online or a pic of that part of the map. What unit are you seeing this in? FS and BLM maps can be frustrating when you need 14 of them and most only have a small part of the area you want on them. lol

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

The USFS maps down here in SW Colorado don't have "hunting camps" noted on them, just the improved regular FS camps that charge a daily use fee.

 

[WY ME]

I haven't looked at the maps but the camps sound like they might be registered outfitter's camps. The one with a gate after it sounds like the North Fork of Fall Creek. Long Draw outfitters has a camp right before the gate/trailhead.

 

[dick56]

WY ME, I think you are right,I looked at the outfitter web site and that is excatly where I was looking on the maps.Does that mean they have the rights to the hunting in that area?Are all of the marked hunting camps probually leased outfitter camp?If we were to go back thoses marked trails as far as we can get with a truck and trailer and sit up camp and hike out from camp will there be conflict with the outfitters?This is the stuff I need to get figured out before arriving and getting any surprises.Don't want any trouble,just a enjoyable hunt.Any help would be great.Thank you

 

[OregonJim]

I would call the USFS office closest to the point on the map.
It is their job to assist in interpretation of their map!
Sounds like one of those "map details" that is either left over or a included as a courtesy.

While the outfitter may be licensed for the area and might even have been granted exclusive rights to the camp spot, they shouldn't have any "exclusive" rights to the hunting in the area if it is not leased. (BLM possibly; USFS doubtful)
Even when a BLM property is "landlocked" by private holdings you could hunt it if could figure out a way to get in there.

One of these days I'm going to hire a helicopter to drop me on a square mile in Colorado just to make that point to the guy who is charging trespass for public land access.

The jerk charging the trespass fee to grant access to public property wouldn't agree but they would be wrong.

Feel free to PM me with the Lat/Lon or specific landmarks that will get me on it and I'll give it a look using a program I use that has some pretty good map layers.

 

[2rocky]

Dick it is likely that that is a base camp. Usually outfitters will have an end of the road, semi permanent camp where they meet their clients, and take them into the roadless area via horses and pack stock. They pay a special use fee for that spot, as well as each of their camps in the wilderness.

Usually base camp is near a public trailhead. They probably access the same trail as the rest of the public, although there may be a little spur trail off the main trail to access the camp instead of going through the public camping or parking area.