mbuh, did you pull your tags? Sorry I can't say that I've hunted the unit, but I'm sure somebody on this site has. Can't be a bad unit as it is in Carbon County - the best B&C county in the whole country. The unit has a huge HMA (essentially a good chuck of the Q Creek Ranch) that has a draw for permission slips. I'd be sure to try and get a couple of those if you are going DIY. For a guided hunt, look at the Q Creek website - they offer guided hunts and the rates appear reasonable. Good luck and let us know how you do. I hope you and your son get a couple.