Underage applicants

[nitis]

So apparently dfg Idaho has no stones

http://www.cdapress.com/news/outdoors/article_ebd85542-d0fa-527e-be2c-f69a9757b747.html?TNNoMobile

So basically they didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings so they let everyone play while others stood by and played by the rules. As far as I'm concerned everyone of those applicants and their party should have been disqualified from the draw. It's to hard to get a tag as it is now cheaters are winning

 

[Musket Man]

I can see the confusion since in most states they can apply aslong as they will be old enough when the season opens. It was poor timing to bring it into effect. They should have done it before the app deadline so there wouldnt have been any confusion

 

[nitis]

They did it said in the regulations they were not to apply because the law does not change until July 1

Maybe they should have been allowed to apply however all the people who read the rules and didn't put their 10 year old in are now on the outside looking in. And since they weren't eligible they took tags away from other applicants

 

[Musket Man]

If the regs were worded like that they should have been disqualified. Still there would be alot of mad people no matter what they did I think.

 

[nitis]

That's true but if they had disqualified them all they had to do was point to regs and say look dummy

I am sure there was a certain number who really didn't understand but for everyone of those there were one or two who worked the system.

I don't think it's enough but if they wanted to attempt to make it right they should take all the tags that were awarded to those who shouldn't have applied and put them in the second draw. And that should include anyone who was in a party with an underage applicant.

Then let everyone try for those tags again. Because it was stated in the regs that 10/11 year olds could apply in the second chance drawing.

 

[cowboy105]

+1 with taking those tags back and putting them in the 2nd draw. Do you know of a point of contact with IDFG who is handling this? So others can voice their displeasure. They need to stop being lazy because if it were 100 of these 10-11 year old applicants who weren't eligible they would disqualify them, but because it's a 1,000 plus and I am sure a good number of the 1,000 put in as a party making that number higher they won't. Rules are the rules.

 

[Cobbhunts]

Rules are rules. Yea but we are talking about kids here. Get over it, they've made their decision. Good luck to the kids that draw a tag is what I say.

 

[Musket Man]

I wonder how many of them actually drew tags? I bet most of them their parents herd the min age had been lowered and put them in thinking it was ok without reading the regs.

 

[PointsHunter]

Legal to big game hunt at 10... Beyond the debate regarding the rule change, that seems a tad young. Bird hunt - perhaps. Big game? I seem to remember Utah/Wyoming used to be (still are?) 12 to bird hunt and 14 for big game - or have I lost my memory?

 

[Musket Man]

Washington doesnt even have a minimum age.

 

[Eberle]

Legal to big game hunt at 10... Beyond the debate regarding the rule change, that seems a tad young. Bird hunt - perhaps. Big game? I seem to remember Utah/Wyoming used to be (still are?) 12 to bird hunt and 14 for big game - or have I lost my memory?

I'm pretty sure in Wyoming big game is 12. Most states are 12.

 

[nitis]

Rules are rules. Yea but we are talking about kids here. Get over it, they've made their decision. Good luck to the kids that draw a tag is what I say.

Ok but what about al the 10/11 year olds who didn't apply because they obeyed the rules

 

[nitis]

You need to contact the directors office and they will return calls don't go looking for blood.... Yet be nice and voice your displeasure

They actually called me back yesterday but I was asleep ( working night shift)

 

[Cobbhunts]

Well that sucks for them. And I hate that they didn't get in on it. And applaud them for reading the rules (the parents obviously). I just could totally see how a majority of the "rule breakers" did so by mistake. If I'm understanding it correctly.

 

[nitis]

Rules and laws are still supposed to be followed right? Meth is still illegal right.

I'm sorry this is on the parents. Those 1000 kids screwed the draw odds and it's hard enough to draw a tag there as it is not to mention expensive especially for non residents. And before you say it doesn't those extra applicants do sway the non resident tags

Those parents will have to explain to those kids why their tags were taken away

Or how do the parents of those who followed the rules explain to their ten year old why he didn't put in to draw when their friend at school has a tag

 

[Cobbhunts]

Washington doesnt even have a minimum age.

I don't think KY does either. I was hunting deer way before 10 years of age. And my soon to be 6 year old is begging me to take her this fall. I took my cousin when he turned 9. Its all about how mature they are in nature. I've met some 14+ year olds that shouldn't be hunting haha.

BTW....here was my cousin at 10 years old. He's now 20 and in college. Turned out to be a great kid, he no longer hunts though. Has other things on his mind at the moment lol! Good ole muzzleloader buck!!

 

[Murdy]

No minimum age in Illinois -- if you can pass the hunter safety course, you can hunt.

 

[In God We Trust]

Using meth as an example is a little bit absurd. As far as the minimum age of 10 being a little bit young, I disagree. A 10 year old can shoot a deer with a .243 as well as a 12 year old. Regarding the tags it is water under the bridge at this point. I agree with having a second draw but lets not punish kids for someones mistakes. There dads already told them they have tags and are going hunting so don't go back on that. They are the ones that will be keeping this thing alive after we can't any more.

 

[nitis]

Using meth as an example is a little bit absurd. As far as the minimum age of 10 being a little bit young, I disagree. A 10 year old can shoot a deer with a .243 as well as a 12 year old. Regarding the tags it is water under the bridge at this point. I agree with having a second draw but lets not punish kids for someones mistakes. There dads already told them they have tags and are going hunting so don't go back on that. They are the ones that will be keeping this thing alive after we can't any more.

Meth is illegal but not much is done about these applications were illegal and nothing is being done about

No one is arguing if the kids are old enough or not that has already been determined

 

[nitis]

There's 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back

Fairly engaging conversation but in the end the lady basically told me they may issue "warnings" in written form but that's about it

What a joke

I asked if they could or would consider having those tags that were drawn put into the second draw and then she started getting more defensive and basically said what's done is done

I still believe there are people who tried to game the system probably just as many who were ignorant to the rule.

One thing I didn't know was that in the past you could apply at age 11 as long as you would be 12 when the hunt opened you applied for so in a sense if people had followed the rules of this year some kids kind of got jobbed

Supposedly total apps are up 7000 according to her numbers and 900+ were illegal. 140k some odd apps now 900 into 140k isn't a high percentage. But it only takes a few of those names to bump you down the list just enough to not get a tag

Keep calling and voicing your displeasure this is wrong