Unbelievable Sako 85 Prices

SansSouci

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I have purchased a Sig handgun from Euro Optic at an excellent price. Today I was back at Euro Optic looking for Sig magazines when Sako 85's caught my attention. An '06 Model 85 was discounted by over a grand. If only I needed another hunting rifle. BTW, I do love Sako hunting rifles. Either I've been lucky or Sako makes accurate rifles. Mine are older AV models. They'll shoot .25" with hand loaded hunting rounds. I've often wondered what they'd do with tricked out target loads. And they're stock rifles.


http://www.eurooptic.com/sako-85-finn-bear-300-win-mag-11-twist-24-barrel-mpn-jrsf531.aspx
 

Horsenhike

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My local Scheels has a really nice synthetic/stainless Sako with a VX3 for $995. .300wm. I'm convinced people are scared of the caliber which is resulting in low prices. Same store had a stainless Tikka in .300wm used as new for $500. We opted for a Savage for $300. All these rifles are like new.
 

SansSouci

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Good Morning, Horsenhike,

I think hunters read too many gun magazines where they get the notion that a .300 WM recoils like a .270 Win. Reality has a way of messing with expectations.

My first big game rifle was a Model 700 in .270 Win. At that time, the '06 was thought to be too much gun for a kid.

I've watched shooters bench shoot .300 Win Mags. There is substantial recoil. I own a beautiful Belgian Browning that was manufactured in '69. It's chambered for .338 Win Mag. I've fired it exactly three times. That's all it took for me to know that it's far more powerful than I need to kill all North American big game. Many, many years ago, I bought a 7MM Rem Mag. I had wanted to get serious about killing elk. Just as intended and advertised, it will kill huge elk very dead. But so will an '06. So will a .308 Win. And so will a .270 Win. In fact, I'm doing the rest of my hunting with one of my 2 .270 Win's. That 43 year-old Model 700 will shoot .25" at a hundred yards. I have 100% confidence that that rifle will kill everything in North America. But then again, everything in North America, including polar bear, has been killed will arrows at about 300 FPS.

Nothing living remains in that condition sans its oxygenated blood pumping equipment. If hunters destroy topside oxygenated blood flow, they'll walk up to dead big game. What destroys that equipment is immaterial. That it is destroy is very material.

The problem I see with magnums is that they have to be heavy to absorb recoil. That makes them a huge pain where air gets real thin. If they're sporter weight, bench shooting recoil becomes an issue. Bench shooting is where confidence is created.

If I were accorded a hunting rifle do-over, I'd buy a 22" barreled .280 Rem and never look back. The 175 grain .284 caliber bullet is legendary for its ability to penetrate. An elephant culler killed hundreds of elephants with a 7x57 using 175 grain bullets.

I think that the .300 Win Mag is one of the best cartridges ever designed. However, I think that the 7MM Rem Mag is the most powerful cartridge that 90% of magnum shooters can shoot with accuracy. Flinching has a nasty way of screwing with bullet placement.

I know my limitations. I know that were I inclined, I could hunt with a .300 Win Mag. But I'd much rather carry a lighter gun that will kill big game just as dead. Hence, I can get done what needs doing with a lightweight Model 700 in .270 Win that'll print quarter-inch groups all day long. And I'll never fault another hunter for his choice of rifle and cartridge. He knows what's right for him a whole lot better than do I.

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SansSouci

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The above target needs to be rotated 90 degrees to the right. The shot at the right margin was my first shot. I had just installed a Leupold VX-3 2.5 x 8 atop my 43 year-old Model 700. I adjusted the scope 1.5" to the left. Then fired the next three rounds. I've repeated the same group on another target. Then I was hitting steel out to 400 yards. That's plenty good for me.

I had aligned the vertical cross hair with the middle of the 3" orange dot, and the horizontal cross hair at the very bottom putting me at 1.5" high at a hundred yards.

My Sako 7MM Rem Mag and my Sako .270 Win will shoot as good, but not better. All are factory rifles with triggers set at ~3 pounds.

For some reason, I've been very lucky when buying factory rifles.
 

Horsenhike

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Pretty accurate take I think. For us the purchase of a .300WM was something we put some thought into. We shoot quite a bit, and wanted to put a more powerful rifle together for long distance shooting. Plenty of rifles will work at 500 yards, but we believe our choice will do so with authority. We have Savage rifles in .223, .308, and now .300WM. These rifles are all almost the exact same size, weight, and optic, which allows us to practice field position stuff pretty inexpensively, but once we get our scope back shoot long distance to figure drop for the new rifle.

An accurate, hard hitting, flat shooting, rifle is what we were after. Pretty sure we got it.
 

ThreeTikkas

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I didn't see those. I was over to euro optic Sat. Bought a T3 laminated stainless 243. It's a good 2 1/2 hrs,but worth the drive. There are some beautiful rifles on hand there for sure.
 

scubohuntr

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Heh. I had an old Sako .338 way back in the Cretaceous. Got a killer deal on three boxes of Winchester 300 gr. solids (someone backed out of a special order), cheaper than brass. Of course, pulling bullets is just wrong. I sat down at the bench and shot all 60 of those 300 grainers in one sitting. For two weeks you could see the basketweave from the recoil pad in black and blue on my right shoulder.

That said, my go-to whitetail rifle is a Whitworth Express in .375 H&H. I don't believe in loading down (if I wanted a lighter load, I'd buy a smaller rifle), but the .375 has never bothered me. Yes, it's overkill, but I purely love that rifle. Oh, it lets you know when you pull the trigger, for sure, but it's more authoritative than violent. If you want violent, find a Ruger #3 in .45-70, with that slippery hard plastic buttplate and sharp-cornered comb.
 

mcseal2

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Bought a used, beat up, one side of the stock faded from back window gunrack, Sako 595 in 243 a year or so ago. It's now in my truck continuing it's abuse and still shoots under 1" with most anything I feed it. It does better with loads it likes, but still around 3/4". It's consistently accurate but not super exceptional with anything. I like rifles that aren't picky, just shoot whatever you feed them well and to a similar point of aim. I added a Leupold 4.5-14x when I bought it. I also had a trigger job and bedding done on it, more for me than because it needed it. I prefer a tang or 3 position safety, but can't fault it other than that. I take it off the rack every few months and send a 90gr Accubond down the barrel to the 100yd target, it prints 2" high dead center and I put it back in the truck. Can't ask for more than that.
 

Elkhunter96

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I have a Weatherby mark V in 338 win mag as my go to rifle. I won't ever go back to my old 270, my weatherby simply shoots better and with a muzzle break has the about the same recoil. Plus, in over 20 years, it has been a one bullet kill. When you find the right gun and caliber, why change...
 

xtreme

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Good Morning, Horsenhike,

I think hunters read too many gun magazines where they get the notion that a .300 WM recoils like a .270 Win. Reality has a way of messing with expectations.

My first big game rifle was a Model 700 in .270 Win. At that time, the '06 was thought to be too much gun for a kid.

I've watched shooters bench shoot .300 Win Mags. There is substantial recoil. I own a beautiful Belgian Browning that was manufactured in '69. It's chambered for .338 Win Mag. I've fired it exactly three times. That's all it took for me to know that it's far more powerful than I need to kill all North American big game. Many, many years ago, I bought a 7MM Rem Mag. I had wanted to get serious about killing elk. Just as intended and advertised, it will kill huge elk very dead. But so will an '06. So will a .308 Win. And so will a .270 Win. In fact, I'm doing the rest of my hunting with one of my 2 .270 Win's. That 43 year-old Model 700 will shoot .25" at a hundred yards. I have 100% confidence that that rifle will kill everything in North America. But then again, everything in North America, including polar bear, has been killed will arrows at about 300 FPS.

Nothing living remains in that condition sans its oxygenated blood pumping equipment. If hunters destroy topside oxygenated blood flow, they'll walk up to dead big game. What destroys that equipment is immaterial. That it is destroy is very material.

The problem I see with magnums is that they have to be heavy to absorb recoil. That makes them a huge pain where air gets real thin. If they're sporter weight, bench shooting recoil becomes an issue. Bench shooting is where confidence is created.

If I were accorded a hunting rifle do-over, I'd buy a 22" barreled .280 Rem and never look back. The 175 grain .284 caliber bullet is legendary for its ability to penetrate. An elephant culler killed hundreds of elephants with a 7x57 using 175 grain bullets.

I think that the .300 Win Mag is one of the best cartridges ever designed. However, I think that the 7MM Rem Mag is the most powerful cartridge that 90% of magnum shooters can shoot with accuracy. Flinching has a nasty way of screwing with bullet placement.

I know my limitations. I know that were I inclined, I could hunt with a .300 Win Mag. But I'd much rather carry a lighter gun that will kill big game just as dead. Hence, I can get done what needs doing with a lightweight Model 700 in .270 Win that'll print quarter-inch groups all day long. And I'll never fault another hunter for his choice of rifle and cartridge. He knows what's right for him a whole lot better than do I.

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I thought this was a good post, the the post of Elkhunter96 was equally as good. I bear hunted with a guide and I used my 243wssm to kill a bear spot and stalk. We had dogs for back up and really expected a treed bear. It did get a little iffy so he knew I was going solo spot and stalk in another western state and when I was leaving he told me,"that is not enough gun for solo spot and stalk. I used 7mm on next one
 

MtnBuck

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I went from a 300wm to a 7mm last year. I don't know that I shoot any better with the 7mm, but it's nice not having a black and blue shoulder at the end of the day. 2 boxes was brutal. One sweet thing about the 300 is that none of my range buddies wanted to shoot more than one round through it. Saved me a lot of money over the years. :p

Sako/Vx3 for $1000. Sign me up.
 

JimP

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MtnBuck, you need to come over and try out my .340 Weatherby with and without the brake on it. I can usually shoot it 10 times without the brake before I need to quit, but if I put the brake on I can shoot it all day long.

But if I was going to just buy one rifle for all of North America it would be the 7mm Rem mag. I have one and have had no problems dropping everything that I have shot with it from grouse and rabbits up to large elk. Then if you reload for it you can really tweak it out for the animal that you are after.

A couple of years ago I purchased a Weatherby Vanguard in 25-06 and plan on using it for deer and antelope shooting either a Barnes 100 grain TTSX or a 115 grain TTSX. The 115 shoot a little bit better but the 100's are a little bit faster. But I could even move this round up to elk with the 115 TTSX with very little doubt that it would drop them.
 

JimP

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I took it to Africa and all were one shot kills on 5 of the 6 animals that I shot, and the one that wasn't was the shooters problem. I had complete pass through shots with the range from 90 yards out to 479 yards. The closest shot was my impala at 90 and the furthest was the kudu at 479 yards.

I also used it to kill my largest elk at just under 800 yards. I took 2 shots but he was dead on his feet with the first one, but as you should know about a elk you keep shooting if they are still standing. Both of those shots were complete pass through shots.

I took it to British Colombia for my grizzly hunt but the only shot that I had at a griz was at 578 yards and he was in a very small clearing. I just didn't feel comfortable taking that shot. But the next day we were in the same spot and a elk walked into that meadow and after seeing him I figured that I should of taken that shot at the griz.

In all reality with that .340 I would feel comfortable going after just about any animal that walks, but due to regulations on caliber size most of the big 5 are safe from me with that rifle. But I am ready for the zombies.

Here is the link to my African story

http://forum.eastmans.com/showthread.php/13324-My-African-Safari

And here are the finished mounts that I had done

http://forum.eastmans.com/showthread.php/15660-African-Mounts-Have-Come-Home
 
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