To Many Elk in Eastern WY Article

[Maxhunter]

Eastern Wyoming Has Too Many Elk, And Hunters Can’t Kill Them Fast Enough

A Wyoming rancher says the state Game and Fish Department needs to do more to get an overabundance of elk off of his property — a problem shared by many…

cowboystatedaily.com

So he whines about too many elk but only lets family and employees hunt? And goes on to give excuses about the hunting public not knowing how to hunt his property. He states it is too much like socialism but has no problem with the state paying elk eradicators to shoot some. Sorry, not sorry! Ignorance and hypocrisy have no place in wildlife management!

 

[Ikeepitcold]

I seem to see this a lot with land owners. Cry that the elk are eating their profits. Game and fish give them landowner tags and yep you guessed it, they are for sale. I’ve seen depredation elk hunts here in Nv and the ranchers won’t let you on their land to HELP them reduce the number of elk without a trespassing fee or no access all together.
i don’t get it!

 

[mallardsx2]

Ranchers being ranchers.

Had a rancher who had an Airbnb in Nebraska ask me if we were interested in hunting his property for deer while/if we stayed at his Airbnb place. Said he needed to thin the deer out cause they were eating all of his alphalfa. I said ya that would be great. He said “that will be 2500$ for three days to hunt, each.”

I said keep your place and your deer. We stayed in a hotel. lol

 

[wy-tex]

I seem to see this a lot with land owners. Cry that the elk are eating their profits. Game and fish give them landowner tags and yep you guessed it, they are for sale. I’ve seen depredation elk hunts here in Nv and the ranchers won’t let you on their land to HELP them reduce the number of elk without a trespassing fee or no access all together.
i don’t get it!

They do not sell their LO tags in Wyoming, they can only get 2 per property.

I know this area very well. Yes he has a problem he helped create but he is right on parts of it.
The elk herd up into very large herds in this area, hundreds. Yes the sound of atv does spook them by the time hunting season is open.
He can also thank the large ranches that for year allowed no elk hunting, they had "sanctuaries" for the hard hunted elk.
Many LO in that area also wanted to manage for trophy elk, so they allowed little hunting. Now they have thousands .

Plenty of locals could hunt them successfully but as he stupidly states he only lets family and workers hunt.
G&F did not create this problem, LO's did years back with their sanctuary ranches.
The ranch we work for is in this area and by mid Oct elk have herded up and head to where they were safe years ago.

It is open country for the most part too.
We took 2 elk out of this herd , all we could get out of the field at one time.

 

[Rich M]

They made their bed, let them sleep in it.

i see nothing wrong w a nominal trespass fee but you’d think they were opening Heaven’s gates at the rates most want.

the hunting public is also partially to blame - tear stuff up, leave gates open, etc.

no winners here.

 

[Prerylyon]

Ranchers being ranchers.

Had a rancher who had an Airbnb in Nebraska ask me if we were interested in hunting his property for deer while/if we stayed at his Airbnb place. Said he needed to thin the deer out cause they were eating all of his alphalfa. I said ya that would be great. He said “that will be 2500$ for three days to hunt, each.”

I said keep your place and your deer. We stayed in a hotel. lol

I had a similar experience few yrs ago as I considered buying a leftover whitetail doe tag near Buffalo; over in those east slope units that were near where I was antelope hunting on another tag. Most of that area, as most know, is tied up in private; plus the whitetails are largely on the river bottoms and alfalfa/hay fields on many ranches over that way.

G&F actually gave me some ranchers to contact for access/trespass fees. After the 2nd conversation with the 2nd rancher I was done. 1st guy wanted $1k. 2nd guy wanted $2k. For a doe. A whitetail doe.

 

[Rich M]

I had a similar experience few yrs ago as I considered buying a leftover whitetail doe tag near Buffalo; over in those east slope units that were near where I was antelope hunting on another tag. Most of that area, as most know, is tied up in private; plus the whitetails are largely on the river bottoms and alfalfa/hay fields on many ranches over that way.

G&F actually gave me some ranchers to contact for access/trespass fees. After the 2nd conversation with the 2nd rancher I was done. 1st guy wanted $1k. 2nd guy wanted $2k. For a doe. A whitetail doe.

Ouch!

 

[Mr Drysdale]

I had a similar experience few yrs ago as I considered buying a leftover whitetail doe tag near Buffalo; over in those east slope units that were near where I was antelope hunting on another tag. Most of that area, as most know, is tied up in private; plus the whitetails are largely on the river bottoms and alfalfa/hay fields on many ranches over that way.

G&F actually gave me some ranchers to contact for access/trespass fees. After the 2nd conversation with the 2nd rancher I was done. 1st guy wanted $1k. 2nd guy wanted $2k. For a doe. A whitetail doe.

Come to Mississippi. I’ll let you kill more than one on your dime.

 

[kidoggy]

Eastern Wyoming Has Too Many Elk, And Hunters Can’t Kill Them Fast Enough

A Wyoming rancher says the state Game and Fish Department needs to do more to get an overabundance of elk off of his property — a problem shared by many…

cowboystatedaily.com

So he whines about too many elk but only lets family and employees hunt? And goes on to give excuses about the hunting public not knowing how to hunt his property. He states it is too much like socialism but has no problem with the state paying elk eradicators to shoot some. Sorry, not sorry! Ignorance and hypocrisy have no place in wildlife management!

we have plenty of such "ranchers" here also. cry me a river!
ever notice that ranchers are generally anti -gov but are first with hands out to collect a gov check? lol.