The time has come for the FWP in Montana to manage our elk and mule deer in an effective way not only to manage numbers, but also quality of the herds. The shoulder seasons have had little effect on elk numbers in areas where numbers are over the so called "objective numbers". Hunting cow elk from mid August to mid February is not called for. Montana and a handful of western states are forced to absorb NR hunters by the thousands, thus the FWP sells tags to bolster their budget, not looking at what is best for our herds. Elk and especially mulies are pressured highly, so much so, quality in the bulls and bucks has suffered greatly in the last decades. In my opinion, the state should still allow NR hunters, but it is time to limit them to cow elk and doe mulies. They will still have the opportunity to enjoy our great state and also harvest an animal for meat. Yes, trophy ranches and outfitters will scream bloody hell, but it is time to put the best interest of the herds first. I know this will not be popular, but if one looks back at the health of our herds since the 60's, you can see that bull and buck size has diminished. We could do away with the long shoulder seasons if we made a NR shoot cow elk, limiting bulls to residents. Quality of the bulls would increase in my belief. After 5 years, the state could allow for either sex bull elk in small quantity of NR hunters, perhaps limiting a NR to one bull elk in their lifetime. It is not Montana and other western states responsibility to be the hunting resource for the whole country. People are much more mobile and affluent then they were just 50 years ago, with much disposable income.