I ordered a pair of the cyclone pants about a month ago, used them for three days and had a problem with some of the seems, tried to return them and found out that they were going out of business. They didn't have any replacements and I had to call russell and really raise hell to get a refund. I had bought them from Linton outdoors and They called russell for me and helped me get the refund. I liked the pants until they started falling apart, and Linton told me that that was not typical for russell apparel but I would be cautious about buying any myself, if you have a issue you might be in a bad spot.