Proposed Fees for Using Areas Designated as Wilderness

libidilatimmy

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http://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/?id=74538550-B944-4EB8-AD82-4C4ED6903ACF&download=1

Just came across this and apparently the FS is trying to impose a program where people have to pay for permits to film or photograph in the wilderness areas. I'm sure that fees for hunting would follow soon thereafter. Since the amount of people that actually do any sort of recreating, photographing, or videoing in wilderness is most likely minute, this looks like a measure to discourage the few of us that do enjoy the wilderness opportunities from using these areas at all.
 

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http://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/?id=74538550-B944-4EB8-AD82-4C4ED6903ACF&download=1

Just came across this and apparently the FS is trying to impose a program where people have to pay for permits to film or photograph in the wilderness areas. I'm sure that fees for hunting would follow soon thereafter. Since the amount of people that actually do any sort of recreating, photographing, or videoing in wilderness is most likely minute, this looks like a measure to discourage the few of us that do enjoy the wilderness opportunities from using these areas at all.
Voice your opinion on this. Getting permits to film on National Forest land is like jumping up and down, trying to hula hoop, and pat your head at the same time!
 

pmcgovern

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http://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/?id=74538550-B944-4EB8-AD82-4C4ED6903ACF&download=1

Just came across this and apparently the FS is trying to impose a program where people have to pay for permits to film or photograph in the wilderness areas. I'm sure that fees for hunting would follow soon thereafter. Since the amount of people that actually do any sort of recreating, photographing, or videoing in wilderness is most likely minute, this looks like a measure to discourage the few of us that do enjoy the wilderness opportunities from using these areas at all.
http://www.kpic.com/outdoors/Forest-Service-Media-needs-1500-permit-to-photograph-wilderness-277077291.html

Here's what I read this morning......
 

libidilatimmy

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Voice your opinion on this. Getting permits to film on National Forest land is like jumping up and down, trying to hula hoop, and pat your head at the same time!
You have to get permits to film on National Forest? I had not a clue about even this! What a crock!
 

Againstthewind

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The article from pmcgovern sounded like it was for commercial filming and photography in Wilderness areas. "Breaking news"would be an exception it sounded like. I haven't seen anything that you need a permit personal video/photography. I didn't realize that you needed a permit on National Forest for commercial pictures, either. Hopefully they don't start require nose blowing permits soon with only government authorized tissues. I will be interested to see what shakes out of this, not that I am a commercial photographer or anything, just interested.
 

packmule

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I'm guessing anything you take in hopes of getting published would fit into the commercial category.
 

tttoadman

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I would assume this is caused partially by every swinging ()$& that thinks he is a professional hunter, and wants to sell it on a tv show. There are a few groups like Eastmans that have been doing this for years, and it has really added some excitement and promotional value to hunting.

I am afraid the rules are clear about commercial enterprise on national forest and wilderness. Folks around here get permits to gather cones and harvest tree bows for holiday decorations. I think they are just trying to tie up a loose end, but I don't they are doing a good job of it. As usual, there is a hidden agenda in here somewhere.

These people are too stupid to realize that their best advocates are the public broadcasting programs like Oregon Field Guide, who sparks a passion in the public to use and enjoy "our" national forests and wilderness areas.

If they are doing this in an attempt to generate revenue, shame on them. They will spend more money in court than they will ever make in permit fees.

Rant over
 

jjenness

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Just doesn't make sense to me, and if I remember right you have to get permits for this same thing in MT. Next thing you know you will have to pay a royalty fee if you take an animal while filming under one of these permits, which will fluctuate with the quality of the animal you take. What the heck?!
 

tim

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permits for commercial filming in natl forest have been around awhile. all commercial activty is by permit only in national forest.
The wilderness thing was going to follow suit. however the forest service has dropped it.
 

Murdy

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We have a little bit of backlash around here from hunters and fishermen, who pay through licenses and permits to fund the little bit of public land we have, against the bikers, horse people, mushroom pickers (of which I am one too), and other users of that same land that don't pay a dime to support that land. I don't have a problem spreading the costs of managing public land beyond hunters and fishermen.