Ive worn the russell l3 zephyr pants nice pants little baggy for me 6'3" 220. Liked how light they were liked how you could get them in mossy oak brush as i think that is one of the best patterns for hunting the west. Had an issue with the pant pocket buttons breaking off. Still wear them but there more just for antelope hunting now. Have had the Sitka mountain pants for two seasons now really like them, I like the built in belt and also the inside waist (sticky grip) for lack of better words, but that hugs your waist nicely and keeps pants where they need to be. Like others said i took out the knee pads just didnt seem necessary, and they were a bit bulky. Pants stretch really well and have had no rips or tears and have hunted pretty hard in them. Scott if you do a review pants I would like to see would be the First Lite kanabs, sitka timberline or mountain, kuiu attack or tiburon pant, and maybe a arc'teryx or patagonia non hunting brand pant. I'd really like to see you guys try to do a rain gear review with the dewpoint and chugach rain gear.