Oregon Draw System
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theleo91386
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Just the cost of the hunting license and aplication to put in for the draw. If you do draw, then you buy the tag. The point system puts you in different pools to draw from. The more points you have the more tags are in the pool you draw from. Guys in th 0-3 point range may be able to draw 10% of the tags for a given tag while guys with 15-20 points are alloted 80% of the tags. If you're looking at one of the big 3 units, Mt. Emily, Wenaha, or Walla Walla, you're not looking at very good odds until you've got around 20 points.
Thanks for the info. I'm 23 and have set a goal for myself that I want to take a bull elk in every US state that has a season, so I am starting the process now of investing in the points systems of all of the states. For Oregon, I feel like that would probably be one of the hunts where I am looking to check it off the list with a shooter bull rather than putting in for years and years for the chance at one of the coveted units to go after a true giant. Are there good OTC options that offer reasonable chances at shooter bulls? Preferable wilderness areas
badgerbob
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The way I understand it 75%of the tags, for a given unit, are allotted to point holders. Highest points getting first. So if there is 100 tags available, 75 go to the highest point holders. Then the point holders that didn't have enough points to draw and everyone with 0 points is entered in another drawing for the other 25 tags. Suppose to give everyone a chance. Some units, if you didn't start the first year they started the system, you will never draw.
theleo91386
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If you archery hunt there's lots of OTC options rifle hunting not so much. If you're rifle hunting and want a branch bull you'll be looking at hunting Roosies in the Cascades or the coast range. If you archery hunt it opens up the east side and you have the Eagle Caps, Wallowas, Elkhorn, and Strawberry mountains to hunt in. If you really want to abuse yourself you could look at hunting Hell's Canyon. All of them hold good bulls but you'll have to work for them.
badgerbob
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Most of the drainages dumping into the Snake have elk. I like it because the elk are fairly scattered and with a little work you can get into a decent area with a small herd and not have the competition you have with some of the larger herd units. Theleo is right, this area will abuse you.
Micah S
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If your going to hunt wilderness in Oregon just do a OTC tag. You should try to get a Roosevelt bull on the west side watch some of the born and raised outdoors and ZMA videos.
Timberstalker
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IMO the best way for a NR to kill a good bull in Oregon is to archery hunt OTC. It may take a few years to learn an area but your odds of killing a good bull is better than waiting for a draw hunt in an area you have zero experience in. You will be waiting decades to draw any of the Top units in Oregon. Who knows what these areas will be like in 20-30 years? NR cannot draw out of the 25% pool in the slam dunk units so you have to have the more points than the other NR's to draw, your at least 20 years behind right now.
EOHunter
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75% of the tags got to point holders and 25% go to the random draw (point holder included that didn't draw in the 75% draw. I believe Oregon has a maximum of 10% of tags given to non residents. In units where this equates to 1 tag, every other year that non resident tag alternates with an outfitter tag. Also if I remember right, the guide tag pool comes out of the non resident pool, but I may be wrong on this one. I agree with what was said before, best chance for a NR in Oregon for a quality bull is to archery hunt or hunt some of the general seasons on the west side of the state for roosevelts. There are tags anyone can draw almost 100% of the time on the east side, but there is usually a reason why such as lack of public or lower quality/quantity of elk.
This is a good website that guy puts together every year that predicts draw odds. For the most part, his numbers seem fairly spot on for a prediction. https://sites.google.com/site/oregontags/
This is a good website that guy puts together every year that predicts draw odds. For the most part, his numbers seem fairly spot on for a prediction. https://sites.google.com/site/oregontags/
EOHunter
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Oh and on other note that might have been said before but a little clarification. It isn't like Wyoming where you can just buy a point for $50. You have to buy a $150 dollar NR license, then another $8 to apply. You can apply for PP only by choosing hunt #299 for elk, but unless you are planning on doing more hunting, buying general OTC tags, or have extra money to blow, to me it doesn't make sense to pay about $160 a year to buy a point. If you bought deer and antelope points at the same time it adds $8 for each species, but at least it makes you feel better about dropping that license money on 3 species rather than one.
ore hunter
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on top of that,dont even think about n r elk for wenaha,,,the outfitter welfare system here lets them grab the 1 and only n r tag no matter how many points you have!!Oregon could be ok if your gonna do o t c but definitely do not recommend the cost of building points as a n r.sorry but it just does not give you much bang for your buck$$n r quotas are also very low compared to other states,i only hunt here because resident prices for tags are lower than out of state tags,,though they seem to go up constantly in price.