Non-resident mountain goat

[HuskyMusky]

So I'm a relative newcomer to some of this stuff, but curious about how this works. I know Nevada only offers mountain goat tags to residents at this point, but what would it take for them to start offering even one tag for non-residents? Obviously residents are happy to keep them all for themselves, but somebody has to be aware of the potential revenue stream from non-resident applications. Of course the odds would be one in several thousand....

QQ

To your point, essentially a state could only sell tags at the non-resident price and really increase revenue!

The going rate seems to be about 10x Resident price = Non-resident price.

And essentially 1/10th of the total tags go to non-residents, of course both of these vary by state but this is a generalization.

Ex. So instead of selling 100k resident tags and 10k non-res, they could sell 20k non-res and generate the same revenue.


I honestly don't doubt that one day it could come to this, or simply put they make the tag the non-res price and everyone goes in the same lottery, or perhaps resident preference but I would be quite certain most residents aren't going to pay $1000 for an elk tag in their home state.


Good luck playing the game!

 

[BuzzH]

To your point, essentially a state could only sell tags at the non-resident price and really increase revenue!

The going rate seems to be about 10x Resident price = Non-resident price.

And essentially 1/10th of the total tags go to non-residents, of course both of these vary by state but this is a generalization.

Ex. So instead of selling 100k resident tags and 10k non-res, they could sell 20k non-res and generate the same revenue.


I honestly don't doubt that one day it could come to this, or simply put they make the tag the non-res price and everyone goes in the same lottery, or perhaps resident preference but I would be quite certain most residents aren't going to pay $1000 for an elk tag in their home state.


Good luck playing the game!

To do what you're implying, would take legislation. I wonder how long a State Senator or Congressman is going to last by passing legislation to make R and NR fees the same? My guess, is about 1.5 seconds, and would assure a single term. No doubt in my mind.

There is no way that Western States Residents are going to allow anything of the sort to happen and the State Legislators value their jobs enough to never do it. The Residents cry over a 5% increase every decade...

 

[WELDO]

Well then I have like 14 worthless bonus points for Goats now in NV. I moved out of the State due to work . I never paid any attention to the NR tags but now I'm on the wrong side of the fence. I drew a Desert Sheep tag with 11 points and a bull tag with 13 points. At least I drew those . I have points in Utah but that will be slim chance

 

[Gr8bawana]

You guys have gotten your wish.

Bighorn & Goats:

Added late seasons for Resident Desert Bighorn Hunt 1351 in Units 045, 153, and 213. Added early and late seasons for Nonresident Desert Bighorn Hunt 3251 in Units 212 and 213. Added Unit 091 and a late season in Unit 114 to Resident Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep Hunt 9151. Added a Nonresident Mountain Goat Hunt 7251 in Unit 102.

 

[graybird]

Well, there's your chance. Not much of one, but a chance.

 

[HuskyMusky]

As for revenue, I personally don't see why a state doesn't make all once in a lifetime tags the non-res fee.

If a resident doesn't have $1000 to hunt a goat once in their lifetime, ie pay it off over 30 plus years I don't see how they can afford to live.


The figures I've read usually non-res get 10% of the tags, and pay 10x more or even greater, and those 10% non-res generate as much $$ as the 100% of residents.

From a financial view, states really should be giving non-res many more tags and charging that 10x fee and making way more money.

In a sense if you doubled non-res tags from 10% to 20% and you'd generate the same amount.
Instead 110 people in the field, 10 non-res plus 100 res, you could have 20 non-res only. Less pressure, more money, but I don't see states doing this.

 

[Gr8bawana]

To your point, essentially a state could only sell tags at the non-resident price and really increase revenue!
The going rate seems to be about 10x Resident price = Non-resident price.
And essentially 1/10th of the total tags go to non-residents, of course both of these vary by state but this is a generalization.
Ex. So instead of selling 100k resident tags and 10k non-res, they could sell 20k non-res and generate the same revenue.
Good luck playing the game!

We're talking about 13 tags here not thousands or even hundreds so your argument is illogical.

Perhaps when your state of Illinois starts offering resident mtn goat tags you could tell them to charge you non-res fees to help their revenue. Oh yeah it's never going to happen, so I guess you're stuck paying non-res fees to apply out in the west, or you could teach the western states a lesson and just not spend your money applying.