national forest boundaries on Google earth

25contender

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The chip is dead on. It shows these private parcels. They are well known and they are not on GE Pro.
So do you think the chips are wrong/inaccurate compared to GE pro? Those chips aren't cheap and I would expect them to be even better (at least updated more often).
 

hoshour

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The layers used in GE Pro or those imported from elsewhere are made up at different times by different authors. The best, most recent layers should be on the sites of the administrative districts like the forest service, but not always.

When I talked to the Idaho GIS people recently they said they were going to start migrating their files from the Idaho site to ARC/GIS. ARC/GIS is a software company that is the most popular place to go for easy use maps and layers. There are lots of others.

The whole digital mapping world is kind of an unstandardized, not terribly well organized mess and can be frustrating to search and navigate and know what is the most accurate or most up to date. ARC/GIS, run by ESRI does a very good job but you need a subscription for $1,500/year to really unlock its best features and search capabilities.

Even Google Earth Pro is just a mashup of all kinds of digital files from different sources. One thing that can help is checking out the source and date of the map or tables you run across.
 

micropterus79

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^^^Ha! I heard that! One of the only things I miss about being a graduate student is having access to fully licensed versions of ARC/GIS software. I am hoping to land a faculty job in Denver that would give me access to a brand new GIS lab. We'll see.

What I am gathering from this thread is, while GE is handy, buying a chip is the way to go (assuming you have a GPS) if you want any to know boundaries and simple surface ownership features.
 

Rick!

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You might also want to check out esri.com http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?useExisting=1 which is much faster and easier to use, with some easy to find capabilities you might have a hard time locating or using in GE. ARC/GIS Online will also display kml and kmz overlays.

To get the most out of it, do the free registration to create an account for ARC/GIS Online.

You can also merge Excel or CSV tables to show as layers. You can even combine more than one table. And, doing a search after you log in may turn up some layers you hadn't thought of.

Warning! This can be very addictive and there are lots of overlays scattered around the net.
Our snowmobile club had a full ESRI suite as they offer it to nonprofits for just the annual maintenance fee. It is very easy to get caught up in grabbing data from anywhere and creating some pretty informative map databases. It was also a great communication tool between the club and the DNR - they typically have several layers of data available, heck, they even have hydrographic (bathymetric?) lake data for lakes in the wilderness. I'm going to check out the link you posted - sounds like it might be fun to get back into it.
 

WapitiBob

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^^^Ha! I heard that! One of the only things I miss about being a graduate student is having access to fully licensed versions of ARC/GIS software. I am hoping to land a faculty job in Denver that would give me access to a brand new GIS lab. We'll see.

What I am gathering from this thread is, while GE is handy, buying a chip is the way to go (assuming you have a GPS) if you want any to know boundaries and simple surface ownership features.
If you want land ownership on your GPS, easily, buy the sd card for $100.
If you want essentially the same thing on your PC, grab GE Pro, which is free, or ArcGis Explorer desktop also free, and load the Surface Ownership service provided by ESRI.
You can get the link from Geocommunicator
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/ArcGIS/rest/services/SurfaceManagementAgency/MapServer

Add this topo server:
http://www.earthpoint.us/TopoMap.aspx

add geo referenced forest visitor maps, hunt unit boundary files, vegetation, fire history, etc, etc.
If you're hunting WY, file a public info request and get the HMA and walk in data.