Mrs Fonda Resurfaces

taskswap

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Not to start a political war but this rumor was pretty well discredited:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jane-fonda-pows/

"“It’s a figment of somebody’s imagination.” said Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, one of the servicemen mentioned in the ‘slips of paper’ incident. Carrigan was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and did spend time in a POW camp. He has no idea why the story was attributed to him, saying, “I never met Jane Fonda.” In 2005, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Carrigan “is so tired of having to repeat that he wasn’t beaten after Fonda’s visit and that there were no beating deaths at that time that he won’t talk to the media anymore.”"
 

HogsFly

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Hey taskswap,

The article today was about her own regret for being photographed on an anti-aircraft gun. The note-slipping theory has often been shown to be discredited.

She was in a place, and at a time, she had no business being in.

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kidoggy

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Hey taskswap,

The article today was about her own regret for being photographed on an anti-aircraft gun. The note-slipping theory has often been shown to be discredited.

She was in a place, and at a time, she had no business being in.

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lots of people have been in places they have no business being.
just curious ,if the note passing scandal has been discredited, what exactly is your hatred founded on?

not saying you should or shouldn't hate her . that's your choice and has no impact on me and frankly, hurts no one but you. so have at it.

just seems to me if someone chooses to hate someone they should at least know why.



I don't hate her but don't particularly care for her either. reason... she is a lefty and and lefties stand for all things I oppose.
 
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Let me tell you why I despise her. I am a Viet Nam era disabled vet and I remember the impact her circus had on people who were serving in the US armed forces back then. Hollyweird personalities generally were less vocal about their political views, not saying they didn't have them. The majority of the people serving were committed to serving and putting their lives on the line in support of our country, leaving politics out of it. (I'm not defending the politics of that era). Visiting a country we were at war and all the publicity that went with it was something that just wasn't done. Today she fits in fine with all the over paid, spoiled people in that industry.

Rant over............
 

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...just seems to me if someone chooses to hate someone they should at least know why.
I was raised by a highly-decorated Korea and Vietnam era Veteran who despised Fonda.

I then served in the immediate post-Vietnam era with guys who despised her.

I personally do not believe Veterans need to justify their opinions, as they were granted that respect on the day they were drafted, or volunteered.



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HogsFly

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Let me tell you why I despise her. I am a Viet Nam era disabled vet and I remember the impact her circus had on people who were serving in the US armed forces back then. Hollyweird personalities generally were less vocal about their political views, not saying they didn't have them. The majority of the people serving were committed to serving and putting their lives on the line in support of our country, leaving politics out of it. (I'm not defending the politics of that era). Visiting a country we were at war and all the publicity that went with it was something that just wasn't done. Today she fits in fine with all the over paid, spoiled people in that industry.

Rant over............
CC,

The dad that left for Vietnam, was not the same man that returned. Treason takes many forms, but the mental toll on those actually serving in the military, contributed to the then, undiagnosed and undiscussed, PTSD.

Thank you for your well-written reply.


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87TT

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She should have been prosecuted for giving material support to the enemy.
Hard to forgive. Never forget. Member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972
 

rammont

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I joined the Marine Corps in 1975, just a couple years after Jane's infamous visit to Vietnam. No I'm not preoccupied with hating Jane Fonda but yes, I have no respect for her nor do I pay to see any of her movies or activities, I wont do anything that could be considered beneficial to her. I'm doing exactly what she did, protesting activities that I think are wrong.

Why do I dislike her? Well for me it's hard to like somebody that openly supported killing service members like me. Maybe you guys are too young to remember but Jane was part of a group of slime-balls that threw garbage on service members, spit on us, harassed us on the streets, even kicked us out of our churches as part of their hateful bullying attack plan. What's more, Jane supported the Vietnamese for her preference of a Socialist/Communist state as much as for any humanitarian concerns. The wealthy, pretty people of that time were very open about their support for communism and they had no problem with using violence to help push this country in that direction (which they're still doing but in a more political way rather then through direct confrontation). She sat on an anti-aircraft gun, looked through the sights as if she were imagining shooting at an American plane, smiled and goofed around acting like she was just one of the boys. She openly admits that she was part of a North Vietnamese propaganda effort that she agreed with, she helped put POWs on display in a dog and pony show. All those things supported and aided the Vietnamese war effort and directly or indirectly aided in the killing of American service members.

Yes service members understand that they might die while doing their job but it's really annoying when the very people that you are fighting for stab you in the back by making your job more dangerous. She had every right to disagree with the war effort and could demonstrate and make public speeches at home all she wanted but to actually go to Vietnam and aid the enemy, even through propaganda, is reprehensible and unacceptable.

The only thing that Jane Fonda regrets is that Veterans just wont let her actions go unpunished and it has a bad effect on every project she gets involved in. Every time she has a new movie, documentary, or public venue, she has to go on record apologizing for her actions in Vietnam just to try to appease the public so that she can make more money. She doesn't regret what she did, she only regrets that it makes it harder for her to stay rich.
 

taskswap

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Well thanks for your service guys, this was educational. But one last thought, I just asked my Dad about her (also a vietnam vet) and he says he hasnt thought about her in decades. He said "she's just an actress, who cares about her? Tell me what's happening with my healthcare." Is she actually important enough to carry all this hate-baggage around?
 

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...She sat on an anti-aircraft gun, looked through the sights as if she were imagining shooting at an American plane, smiled and goofed around acting like she was just one of the boys...The only thing that Jane Fonda regrets is that Veterans just wont let her actions go unpunished and it has a bad effect on every project she gets involved in...
Thank you, Colorado Cowboy, rammont, 87TT (along with the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club), and all of the other Vets who will never forget nor forgive her actions.


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The only time I think about her is when I see an article about her or see her picture. Then it's only for a second or 2. Not worth even thinking about anymore. I won't spend my time watching any of her movies or tv stuff. Too bad to as I really like her father.
 

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I was raised by a highly-decorated Korea and Vietnam era Veteran who despised Fonda.

I then served in the immediate post-Vietnam era with guys who despised her.

I personally do not believe Veterans need to justify their opinions, as they were granted that respect on the day they were drafted, or volunteered.



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so you have chosen to hate her because others do?????????????


good deal.
 

kidoggy

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Well thanks for your service guys, this was educational. But one last thought, I just asked my Dad about her (also a vietnam vet) and he says he hasnt thought about her in decades. He said "she's just an actress, who cares about her? Tell me what's happening with my healthcare." Is she actually important enough to carry all this hate-baggage around?
my point exactly!
 

kidoggy

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The only time I think about her is when I see an article about her or see her picture. Then it's only for a second or 2. Not worth even thinking about anymore. I won't spend my time watching any of her movies or tv stuff. Too bad to as I really like her father.
ditto......

it's kind of ironic, the only reason anybody ever thinks about her these days is because of the hatred they feel.
take this thread for instance. what is it the hollywooders say ,even bad press is good press.
 
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