Late season elk hunt

[Retterath]

Im planning on archery hunting and rifle hunting this year for elk and will probably be doing a mid oct to early nov rifle hunt and was wondering about the camping end of it. Do most of u just set up a wall tent or tent with a stove, camper or sleep in your truck for a base camp or do some of u pack in aways and set up camp. Have never hunted later season elk and not sure how to go about my camp set up. I have a Big agnes fly creek but was also looking at getting a kifaru sawtooth or 6 man tipi with a stove and would be light enough to get it back into the backcountry but maybe not. Do most of u just take a truck back and set up camp or get a truck in then take a 4wheeler in a lot farther and set up camp.

 

[woodtick]

Really depends on the hunt for me, if it's got a fair amount of roads I usually set up a wall tent and stove and access the country I want to from a road. If there is more remote country I pack up my sawtooth and small stove and head in to wherever my heart takes me. Sometimes depending on the unit I end up doing both but that's only on extended hunts, it's way to damn much work to do both on a 4-5 day hunt.

 

[missjordan]

We've done a walltent that late in the season as well. Seems to work pretty good and keeps you pretty warm if you keep the stove stoked. When we've set camp up, we usually set up down low and take the truck/utv to where we plan on hunting. I have to agree with woodtick also, it's way to much work to set a walltent up for a short amount of time. We did a 3 day weekend this year and it sucked. The tents are really designed to be up for long periods of time.

 

[Retterath]

how long does it take to set up a wall tent say like a 12x14

 

[Retterath]

wouldn't this one be a lot faster to set up?
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Hunting-Outfitters-Camp/Outfitter-Tents|/pc/104791680/c/104757480/sc/104481180/Cabelas-Outfitter-Range-A-Frame-Tent-by-Montana-Canvas/747313.uts?destination=/category/Outfitter-Tents/104481180.uts&WTz_l=undefined;cat104481180

vs this one. What about if i got this one on the bottom and put my own stove canvas patch in it. Or is that a dumb idea. What is the big plus on the canvas shells.http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Hunting-Outfitters-Camp/Outfitter-Tents|/pc/104791680/c/104757480/sc/104481180/Cabelas-Outback-Lodge-Tent-150-8-x-8/735044.uts?destination=/category/Outfitter-Tents/104481180.uts&WTz_l=undefined;cat104481180

 

[Retterath]

If i was going to spend the money on a canvas wall tent i might as well buy a kifaru tipi 6 person that weighs only 6lbs and could pack it in if needed right?http://store.kifaru.net/6-man-tipi-p77.aspx

 

[roknHS]

Set up time??
Are you taking poles or do you have to cut them on site? Dig a trench for water on 3 sides. Set up your stove on the inside. Cut firewood. Set up your kitchen. Cots and bed rolls. Lanterns filled and pumped. We always brought a big sheet of clear plastic to put over the tent so it could snow and rain without soaking the canvas....a wet tent weighs twice what a dry one does. If you use black plastic, its like living in a cave.
If you're good, it might only take 2-3 hours........might take you the better part of a day if you don't know what you're doing. You want to do a good job with the tent set-up. A couple feet of snow can take down a poorly set wall tent. That could ruin your breakfast...........

 

[woodtick]

Rett I wouldn't say my tent is a wall tent, but it's closer to that then anything else. It's the Cabelas Bighorn III I can set this tent up in under and hour including the stove and beds. It does not soak up water and never needs treating, I've used the hell out of mine for years now and I'd never go back to canvas.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Camping/Tents-Shelters/Outfitter-Tents|/pc/104795280/c/104779080/sc/104481180/Cabelas-Big-Horn8482-III-Tent/727636.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Foutfitter-tents%2F_%2FN-1100672%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104481180%3FWTz_l%3Dundefined%253Bcat104795280%253Bcat104779080&WTz_l=undefined%3Bcat104795280%3Bcat104779080%3Bcat104481180

I couldn't answer your last question that's kind of your own deal, I've had my Cabelas stove tent for years and ended up with a Kifaru Sawtooth though a trade.

 

[Retterath]

Would a sawtooth with 2 guys a stove and gear be big enough or roomy enough for a base camp?

 

[HiMtnHnter]

We use a 14x16 and it's a few hours with a couple guys to do it right and not trying to break any records.

 

[missjordan]

Plan on 3 hours for the whole camp, not including firewood.

 

[missjordan]

Oops sorry that's with two people, so it'll be a bit quicker with more

 

[woodtick]

Would a sawtooth with 2 guys a stove and gear be big enough or roomy enough for a base camp?

I couldn't say yes!! I'm a pretty light packer and only use the bare essentials when I'm out hunting irregardless of the tent we use. But it's nice to sleep on a cot and have a chair to sit in with a bigger camp.

You'd be pushing it on a late season deal just cause of the higher amount of gear that'd you'd be using, a 6 man tipi might be your best option but then again your hunting/camping style might be different than mine. A 6 man is fairly roomy from what I can tell.

 

[Retterath]

If i remember right musket man has a montana canvas tipi from a pic he posted, Am i right MM

 

[Retterath]

I seen this stove and it seems pretty cheap. School me on stoves, I would like to stay away from a super heavy one.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/371088752259

 

[ScottR]

If i was going to spend the money on a canvas wall tent i might as well buy a kifaru tipi 6 person that weighs only 6lbs and could pack it in if needed right?http://store.kifaru.net/6-man-tipi-p77.aspx

We have a Kifaru 6 man in the office here and I have used most of the Seek Outside models. Great options for the weight and warmth they provide with the stove.

 

[Retterath]

We have a Kifaru 6 man in the office here and I have used most of the Seek Outside models. Great options for the weight and warmth they provide with the stove.

Does the seek outside hold the heat for a bit or does it escape fast and also does it build alot of condensation on the inside and always drip? Are those stoves small enough to backpack in with and what about burn time, around 30-45 min?

 

[ScottR]

Does the seek outside hold the heat for a bit or does it escape fast and also does it build alot of condensation on the inside and always drip? Are those stoves small enough to backpack in with and what about burn time, around 30-45 min?

Will answer this as it applies to both brand. It doesn't take long for the little stoves to heat up a six man fast, and burn times last anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes depending on the type of wood you are burn. Condensation in any single wall shelter is an issue, but a stove takes care of most of it very quickly.

 

[Retterath]

Scott have u ever used a bigger stove like the one above in the link in the seek outside so it will burn all night.

 

[ScottR]

No, only a medium.