Hunting on a bike

mallardsx2

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If I bought a 2500$ mountain bike my wife would kill me in my sleep. lol Let us know how you like it!
 

tim

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slime is typically put into tubed tires for flat prevention.
sealant, ie stans usually goes into tubeless tires. very similar but very different.
 

tim

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I just read the ebike article in the ehj. lots of wrong info in that article. I wonder if the ebike company paid eastmans to do that article. The article had Montana as a good state for ebikes, which is odd, since Montana has a reputation for not being a good mountain bike state in regards to backcountry riding. Also, the first paragraph states that ebikes are a good way to get into non motorized areas. That is a blatantly false as it comes. Ebikes are considered motorized.

I get the main intent of the aticle.(to sell ebikes) but the info was not well researched and very misleading.
 

Brianh

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I just read the ebike article in the ehj. lots of wrong info in that article. I wonder if the ebike company paid eastmans to do that article. The article had Montana as a good state for ebikes, which is odd, since Montana has a reputation for not being a good mountain bike state in regards to backcountry riding. Also, the first paragraph states that ebikes are a good way to get into non motorized areas. That is a blatantly false as it comes. Ebikes are considered motorized.

I get the main intent of the aticle.(to sell ebikes) but the info was not well researched and very misleading.
I agree. You can't just ride a bike anywhere. Has to be a closed logging road or trail meant for bikes. I tried to ride on a hiking/horse trail once. Not a good idea and I'm a pretty good mountain biker (just rode the Maah Daah Hey Trail). If you have closed roads, then you could use an ebike as there aren't any restrictions. But to think you can use an ebike, or any bike for that matters off a road, is just misleading. I recall a photo of a biker looking out across a field, not even on a trail. Like he was just riding across the land. That just doesn't work.
 

Brianh

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I agree. You can't just ride a bike anywhere. Has to be a closed logging road or trail meant for bikes. I tried to ride on a hiking/horse trail once. Not a good idea and I'm a pretty good mountain biker (just rode the Maah Daah Hey Trail). If you have closed roads, then you could use an ebike as there aren't any restrictions. But to think you can use an ebike, or any bike for that matters off a road, is just misleading. I recall a photo of a biker looking out across a field, not even on a trail. Like he was just riding across the land. That just doesn't work.
Oh, here in Wisconsin I do ride my bike on Managed Forest Crop land that is open to the public. But...I have to get permission from the land owner to ride a bike on those logging roads as bikes are not included in the approved uses by the general public of MFC land. So you just can't ride around any gate. Private landowners still determine whether that is allowed.
 

DanPickar

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I just read the ebike article in the ehj. lots of wrong info in that article. I wonder if the ebike company paid eastmans to do that article. The article had Montana as a good state for ebikes, which is odd, since Montana has a reputation for not being a good mountain bike state in regards to backcountry riding. Also, the first paragraph states that ebikes are a good way to get into non motorized areas. That is a blatantly false as it comes. Ebikes are considered motorized.

I get the main intent of the aticle.(to sell ebikes) but the info was not well researched and very misleading.


Each state has different laws and there are loopholes that companies are keying in on and are building bikes that aren't technically classified as e-bikes. Thanks for your concerns Tim however Montana is a good state for bikes if you know where to apply them! Here's the Montana law on classifying e-bikes:

The state of Montana "(MT) defines electric bicycles as a bicycle with two operational pedals with a motor attached that does not exceed more than 500W. The power source may not propel device, unassisted, at a speed exceeding 30mph on a level surface. The motor must not require clutching or shifting."
 

tim

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Be very careful on federal land. The forest service states any ebike is motorized. And the forest service does not allow wheeled motorized on gated roads. I am not going to argue the legality of ebikes. Do your own research.

In region 1 of the forest service, most of Montana is in it. Bikes are not legal in proposed wilderness. this stance cut a lot of the great backcountry riding out of Montana and Idaho. That is why Montana has lost some of it's prestige in the mountain bike world. So if a human powered bike is not legal an ebike is defiantly not. Like I said before. The proposed wilderness one is a big time bummer. I lost a lot of great backcountry rides to this stance, the fs has taken. Do your own research.
 

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DanPickar

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Be very careful on federal land. The forest service states any ebike is motorized. And the forest service does not allow wheeled motorized on gated roads. I am not going to argue the legality of ebikes. Do your own research.

In region 1 of the forest service, most of Montana is in it. Bikes are not legal in proposed wilderness. this stance cut a lot of the great backcountry riding out of Montana and Idaho. That is why Montana has lost some of it's prestige in the mountain bike world. So if a human powered bike is not legal an ebike is defiantly not. Like I said before. The proposed wilderness one is a big time bummer. I lost a lot of great backcountry rides to this stance, the fs has taken. Do your own research.
Yes most definitely have to be careful on federal land. And absolutely, the individual must do their own research and laws are different depending on how the land is managed. Lots of public land out there where e-bikes are acceptable, do some research and get out and use it!
 

WapitiBob

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Each state has different laws and there are loopholes that companies are keying in on and are building bikes that aren't technically classified as e-bikes. Thanks for your concerns Tim however Montana is a good state for bikes if you know where to apply them! Here's the Montana law on classifying e-bikes:

The state of Montana "(MT) defines electric bicycles as a bicycle with two operational pedals with a motor attached that does not exceed more than 500W. The power source may not propel device, unassisted, at a speed exceeding 30mph on a level surface. The motor must not require clutching or shifting."[/QUOTE

If they're on forest service or BLM they're a motorized vehicle.
 
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tim

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if you do decide to use a bike on your hunt. be prepeared to be on a first name basis with the local law enforcement. so many hunters don't know the laws and just call the cops because you are on a peddle bike behind a gate.
 

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Anybody have some recommendations on buying a bike? I'm​ looking for a "best bang for your buck" kind of bike. Something decent but pretty cheap, and I'll probably try to find a used one. Also curious about buying an affordable trailer, or are most built custom?
 

WapitiBob

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Cheap is where I went first, then learned my lesson.
Best bike I found for the money was a Diamondback release 1. They're $1750 at REI. Unless you're 20 years old and ride thousands of miles, the full suspension is the way to go. My first one was a hardtail and I'll never do that again. For a trailer I bought a Burley d-lite off craigslist for $75 and stripped it down to just a frame and added a plywood deck.
We averaged 20 miles on our morning hunts this year, 5+ for evening. Same area on the cheap bike I couldn't go 4 and that kicked my butt. The only difference, I'm two years older and on a real bike.
 
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tim

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Anybody have some recommendations on buying a bike? I'm​ looking for a "best bang for your buck" kind of bike. Something decent but pretty cheap, and I'll probably try to find a used one. Also curious about buying an affordable trailer, or are most built custom?
are you wanting to ride just for hunting or recreation year round with hunting as a bonus?
I am on my 4th bike for hunting, it keeps evolving. But places you don't want to skimp on are brakes, shifting and tires.
There are numerous tire sizes now, not only on wheel size ie 29, 27.5 , 26 and there are also different widths, normal, plus and fat.

I am currently using a surly pugsley. It was one of the first fat bikes and it was made for out of the way places. the bike has been good for me. I have a frame bag and front and rear racks. I also have a BOB trailer. it is store bought and has been awesome.

I also need to state I am an avid mountain biker and probably have 6 bikes. So take all that with a grain of salt. I have not been in the starter bike world for decades. the set up pictured, I probably paid $3000. Fat bike prices have come down, but the bike was $2200 5 years ago.
 

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This has intrigued me for several years. The problem for me personally is that all of the country I hunt would require quite a bit of technical experience for me to be able to take it on. So that means I won't be tackling it any time soon...
 

tim

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when you are to old to backpack and you don't want to use an atv. those gated forest service roads look pretty appealling!
 

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I’ve done it quite a bit in Nv and in Ca but mostly for scouting. I’ve never packed out a animal.