Has any one ever killed a second rifle season bull?

packmule

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Would also be suprised at how many can hide in a little 1-5acre patch of timber down in the sage country. It never fails that we run into a few good bulls down in the lower elevation that would be easy picking bc they have no place to go once they leave their little hiding spot.
 

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I have been hunting the Colorado State Forest (unit 6) for the past several years and I will either hunt archery for either sex (OTC) and then get a 1st season cow tag (Lots of leftovers), or go 1st season for a cow and if I get my cow then I will go back for 2nd season with a bull tag (OTC). The problem with 2nd season is that the weather plays a huge part. Twice I have hunted 2nd season and never saw a thing after an early snow. As soon as there is a decent snow then all the elk will move out into North Park (on private property). 2 years ago the snows came right during second season (it snowed about 6" overnight and I was the only one who went out hunting while everyone else was packing up and heading out), and I had a herd come right by me. Unfortunately I only had a cow tag, and after I dropped my cow I watched a huge 6x6 bull trot right by me within 50 yards. The bottom line is that if the weather is key where I hunt for 2nd season, and it can be hit or miss depending on what mother nature decides to do.
 

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I haven't killed one but I've seen good bulls during this season. The first year I was covering country to fast and bumped two different bulls in separate areas of the canyon right out of their bed. I hunted the same area last year with a first season tag and saw a dandy 6pt moving over the top with his cows on opening morning. Later on in the week I met up with some guys who killed a different bull that was a 6x7. So the area I'm hunting has elk in it. In '09 my buddy killed a cow during 2nd season and we saw a small 5pt come out if this same area. I'm heading back there this year with a 2nd season rifle tag. Hope this helps.
 

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Second season rifle elk (Oct. 12-16) is nine days long but can really be crowded with hunters as it's the 1st season that offers OTC tags. It's hit or miss on how good it can be depending on the weather (snow). If it snows good in the high country the elk bail down lower and the hunting can be fantastic. But if it's hot and dry the elk can be anywhere; usually up high in the dark timber. I love to just hunt so I, personally, choose the longest seasons I can find. What the heck, your elk hunting in Colorado; who cares what season it is. Come, enjoy, have a ball.
 

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Cold Creek is now on my list. Only one problem, it does not show on my FS map. guess I'll have to get my topos out.
After checking my trusty topo, I know exactly where you are talking about. I have hunted it and seen elk there, but shot none as they were all cows and I had a bull tag. I am going up near there Thursday to shoot some long distance practice (300 to 600 yds), might do a little looking around there again.
 

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My rule is if you read about it on the internet, its going to be crowded. I've only hunted OTC 2nd season once, and by the 6th day we were finally starting to figure it out, the bulls were where the hunters weren't. Sounds obvious, but we had to travel nearly 100 miles before we found places without people. And mostly it was confusing/difficult access that you had to physically go figure out. I think a good strategy to start once you pick a unit, is google search it and eliminate every spot you read about on page one, then look at the map and see what's left, that will start to get you away from the orange army.
 

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My rule is if you read about it on the internet, its going to be crowded. I've only hunted OTC 2nd season once, and by the 6th day we were finally starting to figure it out, the bulls were where the hunters weren't. Sounds obvious, but we had to travel nearly 100 miles before we found places without people. And mostly it was confusing/difficult access that you had to physically go figure out. I think a good strategy to start once you pick a unit, is google search it and eliminate every spot you read about on page one, then look at the map and see what's left, that will start to get you away from the orange army.
Doe nob that's some good advice I appreciate it, but then again I have thought that about all the post on this thread. Do You think every one that reads this reply could meet meet at Amarillo at the big Texan 3 days before my hunt so everyone can fill me up with all of your years of knowledge?? Ill buy the steaks!
 

packmule

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Doe nob that's some good advice I appreciate it, but then again I have thought that about all the post on this thread. Do You think every one that reads this reply could meet meet at Amarillo at the big Texan 3 days before my hunt so everyone can fill me up with all of your years of knowledge?? Ill buy the steaks!
Might could meet you the day after to tell you what you should've done :D
 

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Everybody says the 2nd is better if the weather is cool, but the 2nd season has higher hunter success over 3rd season as far as bulls anyway. What's the reason for that? Pressure? In your opinion what is the better season 2nd or 3rd? Obviously muzzleloader and 1st rifle are better but of the 2 OTC seasons which is better?
 

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Everybody says the 2nd is better if the weather is cool, but the 2nd season has higher hunter success over 3rd
Don't know where you got this info, but I'm guessing it came from Colo Parks & Wildlife website. As I said in another post, these numbers from them are only a guess. There is no mandatory reporting from hunters, they only do a survey that is a sampling. (I believe it is still done by an outside contractor). In the 17 or so years I have hunted Colorado, I have been contacted 5 or 6 times over the phone. Other states have a mandatory turn in of all big game tags after the season, that way they can tell who got what.

Just sayin..............
 

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Everybody says the 2nd is better if the weather is cool, but the 2nd season has higher hunter success over 3rd season as far as bulls anyway. What's the reason for that? Pressure? In your opinion what is the better season 2nd or 3rd? Obviously muzzleloader and 1st rifle are better but of the 2 OTC seasons which is better?

Could just be a numbers game from legal bulls getting shot pre-3rd. Plus the remaining ones have gotten pressure & may have headed to private land, or weather related issues. Saw a lot of folks packing up and leaving with a cpl days left during 3rd last year when that big snow storm blew in.
 

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Then in units with horrible sex ratios you can get into that 2nd cycle on the cows that cycled late the first go-around.