Yep, I've heard it and even seen a couple "giants" come out of the hills east of Kamas. The Kamas valley is a beautiful place, but the winters can be brutal on growing mature animals...especially mule deer. I've lived here for most of my life and seen three of four winters where the herds have been decimated. On top of the hard winters, you have road kill, hunting pressure, predators (lions), and a few poachers. So it's an exception to see a mule deer get to maturity around here.