The G&F seems to be in a constant funding crunch what would everyone think about a non-consumptive conservation stamp? If you by a hunting conservation stamp you would be exempt from buying a non-consumptive conservation stamp to start. This is how it would work if you bike, hike, backpack, camp, wildlife watch, photograph, etc. on public lands you would buy a non-consumptive conservation stamp and most of those proceeds (a percent would be used to fund general building and grounds items) would only go to non-consumptive projects vegetation, non-game animals, forest projects, trails, etc. Right now I think their would be millions gaining and end the need to raise tags cost for anyone.
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woodtick
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Yeah it's a good idea and we spent countless hours when I was an undergrad trying to figure out how to emplenent and enforce something of that nature. The non hunting group would piss and moan about this like they suggested in our study, it's our land why should we pay for it's use.
Game wardens, and park rangers could enforce it. I piss and moan about the cost of some of the hunting tags doesn't stop them from still charging it. There would have to be a couple year grace period to get people informed to the change, but change happens all the time and if we all want public land then we should all help to maintain it.
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woodtick
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Game wardens in most states are spread so thin as it is that'd be hard! I'm not trying to argue at all but from my perspective just here in Utah they can't even keep up with what's going on now.
CoHiCntry
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I know your talking Wyoming here but we had a similar habitat stamp in Colorado that those using the land for recreation were supposed to buy. I don't remember all the ends and outs of how it worked. It must have been too much trouble because they don't do it anymore? Seemed like a good idea to me.
I don't expect them to catch everyone that doesn't buy one, but with say 3 million more to work with they could afford to put a few more wardens on the pay roll to. Laws keep the honest honest. If only half of the people buy one is still a few more million.
Traditionally the non-consumptive user will be out during non-hunting season times which would also help with that. Heck you could even provides stick to put on your vehicle or even better a lifetime members license plate.
QuazyQuinton
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The more money the non-consumptive users pay in, the more ground they will have to stand on when they want their voice heard. Just something to think about....
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Yea I've heard that argument and that's why there would be separate stamps used for separate funding purposes. Some day they will get say either way. Think progressive instead of them some how gaining some say we set the rules before they have a chance to. It's a win win we keep them corralled per say and the G&F gets there needed funding.
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woodtick
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That's not the angle I was taking. I was thinking more along the lines that tag prices for non-residents wouldn't have to go up and the funding would be stabilized, and this is coming from a resident. So I apologize for looking out for the NR.
Againstthewind
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There was a topic on here awhile back about how to get the non-consumptive users to pay part of the share also. http://www.hcn.org/articles/non-hunters-contribute-most-to-wildlife
They are a large percentage of the national forest users, but I am not sure how to get any $ from national forest, national park, etc. use to into the game and fish pockets. Whatever revenue they do create from camping fees etc. usually stays with the forest service, national park system, state park system, etc. That would be like taking candy from a baby. I don't know why people say that is an easy task. I think it is really hard.
http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/Departments/WGFD/pdfs/WGFD_TRW_FUNDBROCHURE0002759.pdf
I guess 80% of the funding comes from licenses and federal taxes on hunting equipment. 55% from licenses. Only 6% from the state general fund. I wouldn't mind if the state would bump that a bit.
http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/Departments/WGFD/pdfs/WGFDFUNDING_FINANCIALFACTSHEET0005216.pdf I didn't realize how much came from grants like RMEF and stuff like that.
They are a large percentage of the national forest users, but I am not sure how to get any $ from national forest, national park, etc. use to into the game and fish pockets. Whatever revenue they do create from camping fees etc. usually stays with the forest service, national park system, state park system, etc. That would be like taking candy from a baby. I don't know why people say that is an easy task. I think it is really hard.
http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/Departments/WGFD/pdfs/WGFD_TRW_FUNDBROCHURE0002759.pdf
I guess 80% of the funding comes from licenses and federal taxes on hunting equipment. 55% from licenses. Only 6% from the state general fund. I wouldn't mind if the state would bump that a bit.
http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/Departments/WGFD/pdfs/WGFDFUNDING_FINANCIALFACTSHEET0005216.pdf I didn't realize how much came from grants like RMEF and stuff like that.
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I agree that they do have a spending problem. I wonder if I sent a couple copies of Dave Ramsey's total money makeover if they would read it? Just seeing the different senate bills that were filled this year and some that still have a potential to pass it just seem crazy the financial hit that the NR are taking.
Our state (TN) receives NOTHING from the general fund. We have some of the highest resident license and the highest from surrounding states. They are about to go up in fees starting June 2015. We bicker back and forth on the cost but some say its better than taking money from the general fund because u then invite non hunters into the political realm of game management. This appears to be a nation wide issue, something must be done...what it is I have no idea.
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