First OTC Colorado Elk Hunt, A few truths

flatlandfreddy

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I just returned from my first elk hunt, OTC archery in Colorado. The unit that I hunted had an average of 200 archery hunters per year with an average of 10 bulls killed over the past few years. I am posting this to provide some facts for those that might be interested in in your first hunt being over the counter archery.

Gear- you can not do enough research on your gear. I spent ten months researching everything that I used. It turned out to be one of the most important investments that I made for my trip. I had a test subject with me, my buddy who decided to go two months prior to the trip. The gear that I chose was, Kennetrek Mountain Extreme boots, Cabelas Micro Tec pants and shirt, KUIU merino base layer, marmot rain coat, browning down liner jacket, eberlestock x2 pack. My sleeping bag was a Kelty 0 degree. Throughout the course of 5 days, I changed socks everyday but otherwise did not use any of the other clothes that I brought. I did change out base layer shirts, I used technical shirts that I get at half marathons and they worked great. The rain coat and the down liner compressed nicely in my pack with minimal weight. Our camp was at 10,600'. The sleeping bag was perfect.

My partner brought a 40 degree northface sleeping bag and literally slept in all of his clothes every night. He had trouble with his base layer-under armour cold gear being too hot with hiking. He also had under armour boots. They worked great for the trail walking but he had a lot of trouble side hilling. He ended up using a lot of clothes due to not having a layered system. He made it fine for the week but he did not seem to be nearly as comfortable as I was.

The allstar purchases for the trip goes to two item, titanium cup and spork, and katadyn hiker water filter. I went with three other people. One hunted with me and the other two stayed at base camp, camping. Having the cup and fork would have saved a ton of money and trash on paper products. I used it for everything and cooking ramen noodles in it for lunch in the field was the best pick me up feel good thing that we did each day. I chose to go with the water filter in lieu of the tablets just because i would rather drink water than drink flavored drinks. It worked great and we were able to fill our water sources up with no problem all day long while hunting. For day pack hunting, the weight isnt a huge problem. I would probably go another route if I were living out of my pack.

Fitness-If you think that you are fit enough for the hunting--you are not. I live in Louisiana, the elevation out west with the terrain are no comparison to what you think you are training on. I spent a lot of time getting ready, I ran between 25-20 miles per week, I hiked with my pack loaded with 50lbs for four weeks prior to going, I worked out 3 days a week, and I lost 5lbs before I left. The cardio that is required to travers 1500' per day up and down, coupled with the steepness of what you are walking is no joke. I am telling you, just because you can walk five miles in the snow barefooted following a white tail has no bearing on what you are going to be up against if you are going to get off the road hunting in Colorado.

Animals- There are a lot of good hunting shows on television depicting how you can call and kill a bull elk. They always start with someone either calling or someone glassing an animal. It is no different than watching a white tail show. You see a guy shoot a trophy animal and it makes it look easy. There is nothing easy about ELK or elk hunting. There are individuals who go out west and kill an animal their first time. Count em up, I can assure you they are the minority. For anyone like myself who has whitetail hunted their entire life, I know that it takes hours of scouting and lots of work to put an animal on the ground with a bow. I now know that it takes the same amount of effort with ELK and the only difference is that instead of covering 300 to 400 acres to find the sign I am looking for I had to cover 3-4 miles vertically.

I did manage to get on two different bulls. It took me almost 40 miles of walking and when I found them in two seperate locations they were located in some of the roughest terrain you could imagine. It took me 2 hours to get out of one of the drainages. I had to locate bugle to even know they were there. There was no cow calling or herd talk or even noise. The saying that Elk are where you find them is the truest statement I have heard regarding elk hunting. The primary truth is that YOU HAVE TO GO FIND THEM, they dont come find you. One other truth that needs to be in your mind is that they are not like whitetails, you dont go walking through the woods and jump them and then go look for the big one. They are either there or they arent.

Mental Challenge- You better get your mind right before you step foot in the woods. The terrain, combined with the weather, cold in the morning raining in the afternoon will make you want to quit.

I really want to write this post not to challenge anyone's perception or to discourage anyone. I will be going back again and again and again. I just know that In my research I was looking for some truths prior to going and I didnt seem to find a lot of them.
 

25contender

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Good reflection on your hunt. I have always told those that might be interested in elk hunting on public land " Work out till it hurts, hike till it hurts, run till it hurts, then make the shot and you are still not ready!" Its almost impossible to describes to someone how much work and mental preparation is needed to Elk hunt on public land in the high country.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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Because I live (and hunt) in the area, I know the country he hunted and it is as tough as it gets. We communicated some via PM and he asked the right questions. Going into a new area for the first time is definitely a learning experience. I'll bet if he chooses to hunt this area again, the results will be different as they gained a lot of experience there. Great job Freddy, glad I could help a little bit.
 

libidilatimmy

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Very realistic point of view. The mental aspect of hunting the back country is very important as it's hard not to get discouraged even for experienced hunters. As has almost always been my experiences, you will earn every ounce of elk meat you put in the freezer.
 

flatlandfreddy

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I will let everyone know that "The Colorado Cowboy" is a straight shooter for sure. When the game warden takes a slow pause when you tell him where you are headed and then says yep you will pretty much have it to yourself.....there is a reason for that. It was without a doubt the hardest hunting that I have ever done but when I got a bull to bugle --it was icing on the cake for the first trip. The best experience hunting of my life. I did not see one hunter in the woods in 5 days.....
 

Fink

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There's a whole pile of truth in that post.
Elk hunting is probably hard for the guys that live in the mountains. It's real hard when you live near sea level.
When I planned my first trip, my goals were: See an elk, hear an elk bugle, and make it out alive. Sounds like your goals were about the same. Congrats on meeting them! Next year, you can add: Get a shot opportunity
 

Engideer

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Great post, the first trip in rough country either breaks the desire to elk hunt out of you, or it convinces you that you have to come back every year. Getting one out of that country makes you question your own sanity, fortunately you then have 365 days to forget how tough it was. Sounds like you had a fun trip, hope the next one is even better.
 

Matthoek21

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Amen brother! I have tried to explain that to people I know and if you've never been it's just unexplainable. The mental part is to me the biggest hurdle. I've seen guys in great physical shape cry "red rock" (basically quit). The altitude and conditioning is just part of the equation. You have to be mentally TOUGH to push on. But it's unlike anything else. It's awesome and this coming from a guy that is 0 for 6. Couldn't imagine if I was successful just once.
 

tttoadman

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We tell people hunting for us is like a near death experience every year, and we can't wait to go back. I totally broke down mentally last year by myself. You just can't always prepare for everything that goes through your head.

This is an inspiring post to me, and thank you for it.
 

mcseal2

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Great post, I love it. People just can't understand what you mean unless they have lived it.

Here is a post I made years ago I still had saved on the computer. The question I was responding to is "What is Elk Hunting to You"

Starting up the mountain at 3 in the morning so you can be at the meadow you want to glass at daylight, a nice 5 mile walk all uphill. Reaching the meadow 15 minutes before first light and hearing the elk leaving the opposite end of the meadow working back into the timber. Following the herd from a distance through a burn where more trees are laying down than standing, climbing over trees every few yards. Seeing where the herd heads back into the dark timber to bed for the day a few more miles from the trailhead. Settling in for the day to watch the last meadow they worked through in 15 degree weather with only the light clothes you walked in with and an extra layer from your pack. Eating the 2 granola bars you brought and trying to decide if you can drink both bottles of water or need to save one in case you do kill an elk and have to pack him out. Finally seeing the elk feed back out into the clearing that evening and waiting for the nice 6 point you caught a glimpse of that morning to show himself. Seeing him step out and realizing that he has one antler broke off after the third point. Waiting until dark to see if another shooter steps out. No luck, it is time to head back off the mountain the 11 miles to the ATV and then getting ready to get a shower, meal, and sleep to be ready to head up again the next morning.

Or shooting an elk back in a hole in the middle of nowhere wondering just how you are going to get him out of there, but knowing you are going to make it happen… Somehow…

Elk hunting is a challenge, that is what makes it so addictive. When you work that hard for your trophy, success means more. Hope I draw again this year.


I've got a little smarter and better prepared over the years since that post. Elk are still where you find them though, and those places seem to keep getting further, nastier, and steeper. The last bull I took, my best, was on a snowy morning and we got to where he lay just as the sun broke through the clouds and set all the fresh snow on the trees to glowing. I told my buddy, "this looks like heaven, but you have to go through hell to get here". I can't wait to do it again.
 
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Sfjeeper

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Wow, great post. Sounds like you learned a lot in a relatively short time. I'm sure you'll be able to take your experience and use it to your advantage next time, and it will pay off!
 

AT Hiker

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Now that was an adventure! Anyone can kill an Elk, but those paid private ranch hunts could never provide the adventure you just went on.
 

25contender

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We tell people hunting for us is like a near death experience every year, and we can't wait to go back..
I will have to remember this!! It is by far the best way to look at it especially for someone new. The friend that hunted with me this year for the first time looked like death warmed over after we hunted shot cleaned and packed out two elk in tough country in 5 days!! Except I don't think he wants to do it again. Me I have started getting ready for next years hunt.
 

Dan_R

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Excellent post - thanks for taking the time and effort to write it up and offer your learnings/perspectives. I just got back from my first elk hunt in Idaho and had many similar revelations.