Evidence of sex

[SAR]

SAR, I hate to break it too you...If your'e from a town called Weed, you really may have a beacon on your forehead! Only Joking!

LMAO!!! No kidding.

 

[Futboler]

So I ran into this problem this year. I shot an archery bull and had to bone him out because of the heat and distance. How are you suppose to preserve evidence of sex in that case? I'm sure most wardens are lenient in that circumstance, but are you suppose to still leave part of the scrotum attached to a hind piece of meat. I didn't do it and did not get checked, but this issue arose.

 

[Old Hunter]

You have to leave evidence attached naturally. That's also a good place to attach the tag. You could have gotten a ticket.

 

[Big Sky]

We had that exact thing happen to my family 3 years ago. My mom and stepdad each shot cow elk in the evening. We took the horses back the next day to pack them out. We quartered and boned every thing to fit on the horses and packed it out, three hours lasted when we made it back to the trailer the game warden was waiting there to check every thing. The tags were ok and correct but since we didn't leave evidence of sex she loaded both of them into here pickup and issued over $500 worth of fines. We heard later that day that Fish and Game was trying to catch an outfitter in the area that had a reputation of shooting bulls and throwing the skulls unto trees until winter and using a cow tag.

 

[ivorytip]

wow! so when i quarter and bone my elk 5 miles from closest rd i need to leave the dannlers attached to a hind Q?? haha, ill do it. who know might even come up with a creative idea on how to sell those testees and make some mula. im gonn contact idaho fish and game to get a spicific answer for this state. i have a feeling its all depends on what warden i talk to for thier personal opinion.

 

[ivorytip]

i just copied and pasted this from idaho fish and game web site... question and answer page.


"Several years ago, evidence of sex rules were specific to the hunt. In other words, in an either-sex hunt there was no requirement for evidence of sex; while in sex-specific hunts there was the requirement. Depending on the year, and the hunting season, the evidence-of-sex requirement did or did not apply - even in the same unit. This created confusion among hunters. In an effort to simplify the regulation and make it easier to comply with, the Idaho Fish and Game Commission changed the rule to standardize it's application for all big game hunting.

Fortunately, there are some very simple and uncomplicated ways of leaving evidence-of-sex. For females, leaving 1 teat attached to the carcass will suffice. For males, leaving a small section of the penil ligament (white cord entering the rectal canal) attached to 1 hind quarter is all that is needed. "

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[Old Hunter]

For your state. The teat will not work here for a cow. At least not with my local warden.

 

[ivorytip]

yeah it seems like some of these wardens have thier own rules they come up with. sounds like the boy's boys will be staying astached from here on out. oh... and the girl's girls....

 

[Awise1]

I have never figured out how leaving a bulls junk behind and having this huge head and rack is not evidence of sex. I know I havent seen everything in life, but something tells me that you probably wont see a cow elk with antlers.

I do understand why its important if your on a cow tag to show proof of a cow harvest.

Growing up in Oregon in the 50s and 60s, my dad worked in a sawmill with two brothers that were notorious for violating fish and game regulations. If both brothers held bull tags and only one killed a bull, they had access to a walk-in cooler and would put the head in the cooler for a few days. The next weekend, they would kill a cow, skin and quarter it and have a bulls head and antlers to accompany the meat, using the second bull tag. Decades later when I started hunting again in Colorado, the evidence of sex attached made perfect sense to me as to why this regulation evolved. I've never checked Oregon's regulations, but I'm sure they've probably changed by now as have most states to try and stay a step ahead of the criminal mind.

 

[ivorytip]

knee slapper? really? hahaha, thats great edelweiss, i will deff use that from here on out.

 

[Musket Man]

I think its because people will kill a big buck way back somewhere and just bring the head out and then shoot a doe close to the road for meat and claim its the bucks meat.

 

[ivorytip]

well put musket man, ive thought that same thing and have allways wondered how often that happens. logicaly we are supose to leave head gear on hill until meat is all out. thats a hard thing to do when you have a trophy animal down, hard to let that out of sight but that sick feeling you get when meat goes bad isnt worth it.