I have gone up into there via the Redstone route. it is a brutal climb up into the upper basins. I was told one time that the outfitter who had the permit for that area refused to take horses up that trail after having a bad horse wreck on it. It is beautiful and vast country, but a guy would really have to have his ducks in a row to hunt it effectively and get any game taken out of there. I have been up in there when it was loaded with elk, and I have seen those upper basins devoid of life; you just never know.