Do Me A Favor!

ScottR

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Do me a favor and leave a comment on this video as to why you hunt. We have an opportunity to give a few thoughtful responses as to why we hunt and how much it means to us to be the largest backers of conservation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2zz03BZhYw&t=4s

Please leave the comment on YouTube itself, to do that click on the video and then on the YouTube logo on the bottom right. You can leave a comment on the video at that point.

Thanks all!
 

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Well that's a problem, I need the comments on the YouTube video itself. Making corrections to the original post. Sigh.
 

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I would but don't know how.


first and foremost, I hunt for sustenance .I prefer a full belly over an empty one. sure I could go shopping but it is very satisfying to do it myself, knowing I may one day need these skills to survive the zombie apocalypse.
I also hunt for fun. I hunt for the challenge . and I must admit ,if being totally honest , hunt just because I enjoy the way it pisses off the antis.


I do not hunt just for thrill of killing but I refuse to be politically correct, so I will state that I love to kill stuff.

I really, really really, do!
that said if I am not successful , no big deal. I take what I learn and apply it to next hunt.


I do not view animals as majestic creatures . I view them as dinner.

I love to get out in the woods but it simply has little to do with why I hunt. if it did, I would just camp.

which I also enjoy but I have no objection to going home each day after hunting and sleeping in my own bed either.

I won't be PC and claim comradery , because I prefer to hunt alone.


feel free to post this on utube.
 
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taskswap

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Seems like a troll to me. I kind of doubt many people are going to read that post, click through some comments, and have it change their minds one way or another. These are the same people that love hiking on public trails and gushing about how beautiful the wildlife is without realizing hunter tax dollars paid for the trail maintenance. I think you're tilting at windmills trying to change those particular minds. Just my opinion...
 

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Idk. There are some things happening 'culturally' lately I would not have exactly expected. For one, take the organic food movement. I have had a number of folks I know that were not exactly into hunting get drawn in by the organic food aspects. For those who do eat meat, it doesn't get more organic than wild game. Similar movement raising interest in wild caught, sustainable fisheries. A number of younger gals at work that are into the whole backpacking foraging thing have shown interest in taking the plunge into hunting to get direct access to organic meat. I think its a good thing.

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when the chips are down and folks are starving ,I have zero doubt the so called antis will be willing to kill.
in fact I would wager they will be the first to resort to canabalism. simply because humans are the easiest game.
 

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Idk. There are some things happening 'culturally' lately I would not have exactly expected. For one, take the organic food movement. I have had a number of folks I know that were not exactly into hunting get drawn in by the organic food aspects. For those who do eat meat, it doesn't get more organic than wild game. Similar movement raising interest in wild caught, sustainable fisheries. A number of younger gals at work that are into the whole backpacking foraging thing have shown interest in taking the plunge into hunting to get direct access to organic meat. I think its a good thing.

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You hit on something Ive learned the past year from listening to Gritty Bowman, Kifarucast and Randy Newburg to name a few. You never know where the next " public land supporter/owner is gonna come from" More important now more than ever I believe to speak effectively and fact based with no emotion when discussing hunting, fishing, access to land, conservation...etc etc. You never know who will be the next person " on our side of the public land debate"
 

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You hit on something Ive learned the past year from listening to Gritty Bowman, Kifarucast and Randy Newburg to name a few. You never know where the next " public land supporter/owner is gonna come from" More important now more than ever I believe to speak effectively and fact based with no emotion when discussing hunting, fishing, access to land, conservation...etc etc. You never know who will be the next person " on our side of the public land debate"
I couldn't agree more.

People are complex. Anybody who thinks it's just "liberals" vs. "conservatives" is missing a ton. I think we're told we're "different" and "enemies" way more than is actually true. People don't even divide cleanly on specific issues. I see tons of "this is just the next step to taking your guns" responses even when somebody posts about supporting better background checks, but it's just really not that simple.

I have a hunting buddy who hikes regularly with a vegetarian. Nobody in his family hunted so he had no exposure to it, and didn't know it was really still a "thing." Not kidding, there are lots of people who literally have no idea that hunting is a very active and common activity. His main reason for being vegetarian was how bad conditions are for animals in some mass butchering operations. I gotta say, I know a processing facility you can see off I-76/I-80 in Nebraska (near the exit) that makes me agree with him, it's pretty gross to drive by. But after being introduced to hunting he's now an enthusiast and looking forward to taking his first elk.

So is he a liberal or a conservative? Maybe a sell-out liberal? A closet conservative? No, he's none of those things - and that's true of a lot of other people too. Just folk.
 

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I couldn't agree more.

People are complex. Anybody who thinks it's just "liberals" vs. "conservatives" is missing a ton. I think we're told we're "different" and "enemies" way more than is actually true. People don't even divide cleanly on specific issues. I see tons of "this is just the next step to taking your guns" responses even when somebody posts about supporting better background checks, but it's just really not that simple.

I have a hunting buddy who hikes regularly with a vegetarian. Nobody in his family hunted so he had no exposure to it, and didn't know it was really still a "thing." Not kidding, there are lots of people who literally have no idea that hunting is a very active and common activity. His main reason for being vegetarian was how bad conditions are for animals in some mass butchering operations. I gotta say, I know a processing facility you can see off I-76/I-80 in Nebraska (near the exit) that makes me agree with him, it's pretty gross to drive by. But after being introduced to hunting he's now an enthusiast and looking forward to taking his first elk.

So is he a liberal or a conservative? Maybe a sell-out liberal? A closet conservative? No, he's none of those things - and that's true of a lot of other people too. Just folk.
And you just nailed why I wanted a lot of good comments from the group of hunters on this forum. Whether she is trolling or not, well thought out, respectful responses help our cause with the people who are simply mis-informed, unaware, or uninformed on the good that hunting does.
 

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I am much older than most of you on this Forum and my experiences are probably close to yours but with these exceptions. My Dad was brought up during the depression when the conditions were a lot different. His family hunted and fished so that they could have more to eat. My Dad, being brought up this way, had the same ideas about supplementing our families diet, even tho we didn't need to supplement. I grew up eating venison, elk, waterfowl, upland game and fish that we brought home from our outings.

I have done the same with my family because I believe that what we get in wild meat is far more healthful than most store bought stuff. Everything I bring home is eaten by us, nothing wasted. Would I shoot a doe or small buck rather than a trophy sized animal? Usually no, but when the end of the season rolls around and my tag is still unfilled, the answer is damn rights. Fill the freezer when possible.

I believe that most on the non hunting and fishing public is ignorant of the fact that most of us hunters eat what we kill and we wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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I eat most of what I kill but I refuse to eat a coyote .I just kill them cause I love to, and will not be shamed or apologize for it.
 

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I eat most of what I kill but I refuse to eat a coyote .I just kill them cause I love to, and will not be shamed or apologize for it.
Did you ever seen the Meat Eater episode where he actually ate some of a coyote? It was quite interesting.
 
I am much older than most of you on this Forum and my experiences are probably close to yours but with these exceptions. My Dad was brought up during the depression when the conditions were a lot different. His family hunted and fished so that they could have more to eat. My Dad, being brought up this way, had the same ideas about supplementing our families diet, even tho we didn't need to supplement. I grew up eating venison, elk, waterfowl, upland game and fish that we brought home from our outings.

I have done the same with my family because I believe that what we get in wild meat is far more healthful than most store bought stuff. Everything I bring home is eaten by us, nothing wasted. Would I shoot a doe or small buck rather than a trophy sized animal? Usually no, but when the end of the season rolls around and my tag is still unfilled, the answer is damn rights. Fill the freezer when possible.

I believe that most on the non hunting and fishing public is ignorant of the fact that most of us hunters eat what we kill and we wouldn't have it any other way.
CC,

I respect your point of view, especially the historical context, but I don't think we can argue that we need the meat these days. You could buy a mountain of meat at the supermarket for what we spend hunting.

I do see a lot of value in the hands-on procurement of our own food. The challenge of getting it. The work of preserving it. The extra flavor when you remember packing it out of the canyon. The humility of knowing that steak or burger looked you in the eye before you shot it.

The other half for me is the opportunity to teach my kids and watch them grow up. Few things help a kid grow up faster than when Mama brings the dinner to the table and announces which kid shot the elk that we're eating tonight.

QQ
 

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I don't think that you can figure in what it cost to go hunting. You can do it on the cheap or spend a lot of money doing it, that is up to the individual. I can go out for a afternoon or morning and bring a deer home from where I live. He might not be a 200" buck but he will feed me and my family.
 

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I don't think that you can figure in what it cost to go hunting. You can do it on the cheap or spend a lot of money doing it, that is up to the individual. I can go out for a afternoon or morning and bring a deer home from where I live. He might not be a 200" buck but he will feed me and my family.
yup! just because we tend to spend does not mean we HAVE to.
and sure we can get what we need at the market probably cheaper , cept I ain't seen much deer , or elk , or antelope ,or moose, or bear, or …………………………………..most other wild game for sale there either.



I am at a loss as to why antis think domestic game is more expendable then wild game??????????????????????????

meat is meat and wether you get it in the field yourself or at the market , it's gotta be killed either way , to cook and eat it.



the fact that they can not even grasp this simple concept is why I no longer try to turn them from the dark side.
I know many find this harsh but it is my belief, that ANY, who still vote democrat are a lost cause and a drain on our nation.
 
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kidoggy

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Did you ever seen the Meat Eater episode where he actually ate some of a coyote? It was quite interesting.
I did not.

I should rephrase my above comment .
I have never eaten a coyote . I have no desire to eat a coyote. BUT if hungry enough ,I would chew the south end out of a north bound coyote and be happy for the opportunity.