CP&W Commission meeting for November

Colorado Cowboy

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I receive the agenda for each CP&W Commission meeting and after reading the November agenda, I saw an item that concerns me.

There is an item that "changes the Limited License Application & Drawing allocation process for Deer, Elk, Pronghorn and Bear to include a Rolling 3 year average for licenses requiring 10 or more points."

Does anyone know what this means? This could be implemented at this meeting.
 

Alabama

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License Distribution Problem Statements and Alternatives

I think it is referencing page 3 of this document.

"Second Alternative: Updating the 3-year average and potentially increasing the preference point threshold Updating the 3-year average used to determine high-demand hunt codes that are 80/20 instead of 65/35 from the current 2007-2009 average to a rolling 3-year average (updated annually with a one-year lag), ensures the draw is using the most current data and incorporates all existing hunt codes. The Commission could continue categorizing high demand hunt codes as those that use 6 or more preference points to draw or adjust up the preference point threshold to a higher level. CPW analyzed the financial impact of 6 points, 8 points and 10 points as a threshold.

C. Update the 3-year average used to determine high-demand hunt codes that are allocated 80% to residents and 20% to nonresidents to a rolling 3-year average (updated annually with a one-year lag) for all limited licenses for deer, elk, bear and pronghorn that required 6 or more resident preference points to draw. (Continue using the current soft cap approach.)

–OR–

D. Update the 3-year average used to determine high-demand hunt codes that are allocated 80% to residents and 20% to nonresidents to a rolling 3-year average (updated annually with a one-year lag) for all limited licenses for deer, elk, bear and pronghorn that required 8 or more resident preference points to draw. (Continue using the current soft cap approach.)

–OR–

E. Update the 3-year average used to determine high-demand hunt codes that are allocated 80% to residents and 20% to nonresidents to a rolling 3-year average (updated annually with a one-year lag) for all limited licenses for deer, elk, bear and pronghorn that required 10 or more resident preference points to draw. (Continue using the current soft cap approach.)"
 

Winchester

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I talked about this in my blog on CPW Commission License Distribution Workshop (Part Ii) about a month ago … it’s still on the Eastman website.
This was pretty much the only proposal the commission discussed that they may be able to implement for 2023. CPW is currently using a three-year average which goes from 2007-2009 to determine how many preference points it took to draw each hunt and therefore which hunt codes qualify for inclusion in the hybrid draw. This is just about updating that three-year period to 2019-2021 so they’ll be using more current draw data to select the hybrid hunts.
I don’t see any problem with it.
 

Winchester

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I think you already understood the 3-year data base also applies to high demand Deer & Elk units.
Standard hunt units have a 65% / 35% allocation, while high-demand Elk & Deer units have an 80% / 20% split.
So updating to 2019-2021 would also update the data used to select those units.
I definitely don't see any issue with using updated data ... it's hard to believe they're still using data that's over a dozen years old.

It is disappointing however this is the only issue they're prepared to take action on.
They also discussed much more significant issues, such as:
  • Making changes to license Allocations (proportion of licenses for resident vs nonresidents),
  • Limiting Over-the-Counter (OTC) license distribution for residents & nonresidents, or just nonresidents.
  • Changing how Preference Points are used to try and limit point creep.
But they didn't seem ready to move forward with any of these pressing issues.
 
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