Colorado is following wyoming's lead

[trkytrack2]

Hmmmmm, so how did they came up with that idea? Regardless, thanks for the info!

It's what they refer to as "generating revenue." Lot's of guy's have been complaining for years that hunting will/has become a rich man's sport and guess what? Their right! It's going to get a lot more expensive....for everyone.

 

[Musket Man]

Its going to and has happened in every state eventually. 1 state raises their price and you think thats to much I wont apply there, then another and another raise their prices and pretty soon if you want to hunt out of state you have to pay the price somewhere.

 

[packmule]

Increase point revenue, decrease gov tag auction proceeds. Seems like a good plan.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

That is correct ND. You have to buy the fishing license before they expire on 3/31 so it is from the previous year.

Must apply to NRs only. Haven't seen the actual reg yet. I get my fishing lic here for $1.00, just the S&R fee.

WRONG! Just checked the online regs and it applies to ALL applicants. Guess that means because I hold a current Fishing Lic, I don't have to pay for the points I want. Seems like they are screwing themselves....at least as far as residents go, as most of us fish too.

 

[In God We Trust]

I am all for Colorado and other states charging for point building. The point creep is out of control and they have to do something. I have a buddy that hasn't hunted Colorado do 15 years, all he does is apply for points and the point creep continues.They have to do something to stop it before it takes 40 years to draw a tag. I pay the fee in Wyoming and do not complain. Due to the popularity of hunting things will continue to get more expensive just like everything else in life.

 

[Don K]

They need to do something other than raising prices to deal with point creep

 

[packmule]

I'm not sure charging more will change point creep in the "trophy" units. $50-60/pt isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things. 20yrs even at $100/pt sure beats the asking price of the vouchers to hunt those units for NRs. If a res can hunt it in 8-12 then it's still cheaper for them too.

 

[CoHiCntry]

They need to do something other than raising prices to deal with point creep

What would you suggest? Not trying to rile you up, I'm seriously interested about ideas on how to accomplish this? Not enough tags to go around. That's the problem.

Although I know it stinks to have to fork over more cash, it still seems insignificant to what other states are charging non residents in points fee's and licenses you'll never use. Out of all the western states I apply for I pay WAY more in all of these states compared to what a non resident has to pay to apply in Colorado.

 

[BleuBijou]

I think they should start making or adding new units for trophy management and then luck of the draw six point or better units. You may not see 350+ bulls doing it this way, but 300 bulls should be there. Could start to take pressure of the prime units as you could give out 300 tags pretty easily and expect maybe 25-30% success. More Cows would have to be taken to make room for the 2 1/2- 3 1/2 year old bulls to mature before they become legal.

 

[packmule]

If they'd go to a point banking system they'd see top point holders burning some of their points.

 

[CoHiCntry]

If they'd go to a point banking system they'd see top point holders burning some of their points.

They could try it again. I'm not sure it did much good last time?

 

[packmule]

It got points dumped...some of those same folks in our group are sitting back in the 20-22pt pool for deer though with no intention of using them until units stabilize and 4th seasons open back up.

 

[In God We Trust]

I say if you have more than 5 or more points now then you should be eligible to keep building and put in for one of the upper tier units. If you are less then 5 points now you can only build up to 5 points and then everyone stays at 5 until they draw, everyone with 5 has the same chance for a given unit. The guys that have more will start to dwindle and eventually the max number of points it will take to get a tag is 5. Until the guys with more then 5 are gone whatever is left from the units that take more then 5 after they run the names through will be available to guys part of the max 5 points group. The way they have it set up now for guys with 5 or more but not max needed is a joke, 2-3% drawing odds, they did that as a band aid until they can figure out an actual solution.

 

[packmule]

Prob is there's really no solution when trying to please everyone. A 5yr wait for 5pts, then additional wait time wont appeal to those who feel entitled to have some odds to hunt quality units every year under a lottery style draw with no weighted entries.

 

[BKC]

I say if you have more than 5 or more points now then you should be eligible to keep building and put in for one of the upper tier units. If you are less then 5 points now you can only build up to 5 points and then everyone stays at 5 until they draw, everyone with 5 has the same chance for a given unit. The guys that have more will start to dwindle and eventually the max number of points it will take to get a tag is 5. Until the guys with more then 5 are gone whatever is left from the units that take more then 5 after they run the names through will be available to guys part of the max 5 points group. The way they have it set up now for guys with 5 or more but not max needed is a joke, 2-3% drawing odds, they did that as a band aid until they can figure out an actual solution.

This is basically what they do with weighted point system to a certain degree. But that will never happen. The cpw has probably been trying for a few years how to fix this problem and in a few more years will try something that will pi$$ off about 99% of the people. Sooner or later they are going to yank the rug!

 

[BleuBijou]

If they'd go to a point banking system they'd see top point holders burning some of their points.

That just screws people trying to get into a lesser point unit as well! If you have 21 points and can bank, you could hunt 3 years in a row with a unit that takes 7 points. Vicious cycle.

 

[Alabama]

Could someone explain point banking and what CO did last time around? Packmule you were talking about some of your friends are back in the 20-22 pt range. When did this occur and is it likely to happen again? I'm only 1 point in for elk, deer, sheep, and mountain goat. Should I stay away from CO?

 

[Drhorsepower]

I'm also the proud owner of a 2013 non resident fishing license which I will never use.

 

[Musket Man]

They could double all their prices. Then guys like me would get mad, stop applying, let their points expire, and never go there again. lol

 

[Musket Man]

Alabama, about how many points do the units your wanting to hunt take to draw?