Colorado Division of Wildlife and Parks
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JimP
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They should of stayed separate in my mind.
I can't remember but it seamed like the parks were loosing money when they merged.
I can't remember but it seamed like the parks were loosing money when they merged.
buckbull
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I'm guessing that's why they emerged because of money, just like selling a shit load of OTC tags lol.
Colorado Cowboy
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My neighbor is a retired Parks & Wildlife Officer. He was head ranger for several state parks here in sw Colorado when the merger happened. I volunteered for Lone Mesa State Park for 7 or 8 years. You guys are right about Parks needing money. Classic example is Lone Mesa SP. It was a 15,000 acre (est) private cattle ranch in the Sa n Juan NF that was purchased for the state by GOCO with lottery $$ and donated to State Parks. The master plan (which I helped develop) called for campgrounds, hiking trails, hunting, fishing and outdoor activities, but there was never any money to start development. They do allow limited hunting (which is the only public access). They also have a cattle grazing program which is leased out by bid. It's been almost 20 years and there it sits. I know that P&W would love to sell it....but if they did all the money would revert to GOCO.
It's been almost 20 years and there it sits. IMHO it is a classis example of why the merger occurred, hoping to get some money from the wildlife side to help out the parks side of the house.
It's been almost 20 years and there it sits. IMHO it is a classis example of why the merger occurred, hoping to get some money from the wildlife side to help out the parks side of the house.
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JimP
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I'm wondering how much more the Colorado State Parks is going to loose now that there is a $29 fee on your vehicle license plate for astate park pass. It used to be $80 for a year with a small break for us seniors. But now I'll get a pass for both of my vehicles for less than I paid for a single one last year.
Slugz
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I thought I read somewhere that it would generate more revenue with that change due to more activity /user groups needing it to access the land and doing away with the daily fee at some.
Key word there was I thought. I may have misread it also.
JimP
Administrator
I know a number of people who just purchased day passes at $8 a day for 4 or 5 days, now they'll just pay the license fee and go more often.
It's like me. I would just buy a single senior pass for$60 I believe and just use a single vehicle. Now I can get two passes for the same price.
About getting more people to use the parks, I know a number of people who have already opted out of the pass.
Time will tell.
It's like me. I would just buy a single senior pass for$60 I believe and just use a single vehicle. Now I can get two passes for the same price.
About getting more people to use the parks, I know a number of people who have already opted out of the pass.
Time will tell.
Colorado Cowboy
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10 or 12 years ago, Parks offered a lifetime senior pass for around $200. I bought one and I have more than got my money back. BTW they do not offer it anymore.
JimP
Administrator
A number of states used to offer seniors a lifetime pass, but most of them figured that they were loosing a penny on it and discontinued it.
I used to ask quite a few people why Colorado didn't offer a pass that you could move between vehicles in the family. I got answers all over the place but the best one came from Governor Ritter when he was on a radio talk show. He said that if they offered a pass that you could use on different vehicles then people would come into a park and then pass it to someone else to use to come into the park, so there would be two or more vehicles in the park on the same pass. The commentator who was Mike Rozen asked if the pass didn't have to be displayed in the window while the vehicle was in the park and Ritter said that he didn't know. So evidently Ritter had never visited a State Park where he was Governor except for official business.
Colorado Cowboy
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Mine is a plastic card (like the federal NP Pass). When you check in, they add the sticker to be displayed on the vehicle. It can be used for entry only, still have to pay for camping.
BKC
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They should have stayed separate but that ship has sailed. I think it did hunters and fishers little to no good.