zachbow
New Member
I shot shuttle T's last year and loved them. I have also shot Montec's and Magnus 2 blades they were both great heads as well.
Broadheads
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jhpam3117
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I am very impressed with Magnus Stinger 4blade 100gr. Cut on contact design is a must for me. Amazed with field point accuracy at 327fps and penetration on elk has been perfect. Great blood trails. Sharp out of the box and very easy to resharpen and get crazy sharp.
I'm hoping my 11 non-resident points in Wyoming gets me a Moose tag this year. I've been trying to decide which broadhead to trust. I used to be a Thunderhead 100 fan. Then all these new ones hit the market. So I tried g5 montec's about 5 or 6 years ago, they may have changed now but then you needed to sharpen them right out of the package. I lost a monster elk in Wyoming that year, great hit poor penatration, then a 24 hour thunder storm came in and I'm still in therapy losing that one.
So then I bought the Rage. I like how they fly, but I'm concern, I've had the blades open up in the quiver. I've never shot anything with the Rage yet, but I don't think I want my first animal with them to be a big Moose. I've thought about going back to the Thunderheads, but you never hear anything about them anymore. So any great advise would be awesome.
Rich
So then I bought the Rage. I like how they fly, but I'm concern, I've had the blades open up in the quiver. I've never shot anything with the Rage yet, but I don't think I want my first animal with them to be a big Moose. I've thought about going back to the Thunderheads, but you never hear anything about them anymore. So any great advise would be awesome.
Rich
mthuntress
Active Member
I've been using Magnus Buzzcuts for the past 4 years, but I am planning on switching to Silver Flames this year. The "Original" Silver Flames are going back into production in Germany again and should be available in mid-April.....Confirmed this with Markus. He has transferred the ownership of German-Kinetics to a friend , but he will be consulting on the designs.....Just as good as him making them!!
Joe Hulburt
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I've shot Thunderhead 100's for years and killed a bunch of elk and deer with them with never had a complaint. For some reason a couple years ago I decided I needed to try something new so I broke out the wallet and bought some Shuttle T's. They fly great but the animals I have shot with them (Roosevelt Elk, Mule Deer and Black Bear) all bled much less than with my old standby's. I have no idea why or if it was just a few fluke deals but I am going back the Thunderheads that never let me down. I have two elk vertebra with Thunderhead 100's stuck in them (both from follow up shots) that show how tough they are! If I get ambitious I will post a picture or two of those...
Howahunter
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I shoot NAP Thunderhead 125's. Have killed a few animals with them and they do the trick plus you can get six for $40. Will probably never switch to anything else. My wife shoots the NAP crossfire 100-seems to be a decent head as well at least on deer just a bit noisy is our only complaint.
MI-address-ROCKYMTN-heart
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My experience is shooting Whitetails so I don't know if my opinion matters here (be nice). I shot Montec G5s and LOVED them. They had a great penetration holes as well as exit holes. You do have to sharpen them, but you do that on a flat stone because of the cutting angles. They're easy to maintain. I switched to 2 Blade Rages two years ago and LOVE them even more. They'll leave a 2" slice at entry, exit and everything in between. They fly like field points. I've never adjusted a sight after sighting a bow in with field points. I've got to believe all mechanical broadheads are at risk of being open after removing them from a quiver. The Rages are well worth the hassle in my opinion.
So I'm wondering, with thicker tough hided animals like Moose, does it matter how tough the hide is if the broadheads are razor sharp? Penetration is determined by kinetic energy which is determined by speed and weight of the projectile? By changing broadhead designs, you're not altering the kinetic energy unless you change grains. In comparing razor sharp blades to dull blades, the same amount of energy will push an arrow further through the resistive hide with a sharp blade all the while cutting veins in the process instead of pushing them out of the way. Hopefully that relates to an exit hole to allow more blood to spill out in order to facilitate an easier tracking job and a more likely recovery. My thoughts go to shooting accurately, consistently and using razor sharp blades.
elktracker
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I switched from Rage 2 blades to G5 Striker 100s last year after a friend had a Rage fail on a nice 6 pt bull. I haven't shot anything with them yet but I know they are tough, I put one through a fence picket after it glanced off the top of my target and it was fine, just needed touched up a little. But even after going through a fence it was still a lot sharper than Rages are out of the package. I like the design of the Montecs but I went with the Striker because they are so sharp from the factory and I can just replace blades if I need to.
mathewshooter
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slick tricks for me. I have used the 100 grain standards and the 125 mags. Both are the best I have used and I have tried a lot of different ones over the years.
wolftalonID
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There is a lot of mis information about this. Arrows are NOT bullets, and flight characteristics of arrows are so different than bullets its not even funny. If arrows relied on kinetic energy like a bullet does, then 50 lb draw weight bows would not have pass through shots, and 80lb draw bows would blow holes out the back side of the targets.
In reality, arrows dont rely on kinetic energy but on cutting power. The same arrow shot at a deer with field tips that sticks half way through will blow right on through and do more damage with a sharp quality broadhead.
There was a very very well written article some time back, i believe it was in an Eastmans EBJ, but could have been in a different bow magazine that went into all the scientific parts that explained it better. However I did retain the part about the misnomers of bullets and arrows having the same flight and impact characteristics and that many instructors teach that and are wrong.
Ok here is an edit, I dug around in my magazine basket till I found it. EBJ 57, article is called "Bowhuntings Biggest Lie" By Darin Cooper.
Great education for those who would take the time to read it.
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MI-address-ROCKYMTN-heart
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Cutting power is probably a good term to use for archery. Kinetic energy is the amount of energy available at impact. The effectiveness of the impact is then based on the resistance of the target and projectile. Razor sharp broadheads will have less resistance than dull heads which will allow deeper penetration or hopefully a pass through which will maximize the damage. I think we're on the same page, but I would like to read the article. I don't have that issue. Can you scan it and email it to me?
wolftalonID
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I would, however I dont have that fancy of equipment at my place. I checked online and its only the hunt stories they have archived. Contact Eastmans and see if they could email you the article, Im sure they have it digitized at their office. Sorry.
RUTTIN
Veteran member
Rich I shot the Rage 2 blade when they became all the rage. The first year I shot a small 6 point bull at 40yds he was quartering toward me slightly ran the arrow all the way in him. The Rage left a huge hole in him, but I didn't have much blood, bull didn't go far though. Next year shot a nice 6 point quartering away at 15yds, hit a rib and my arrow just sliced him 8 inches along his side and glanced off. That same year shot at a mule deer broadside at 40 yds. Hit him behind the shoulder but must have caught a rib, because my arrow was sticking straight up and down in him when he ran off. Tracked him for about 2 miles in the snow with hardly any blood. Vowed I would never shoot them again. Went back to my 2 blade Magnus Stingers with bleeder blade.
twp1224
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MT.MAN
Member
I too made the switch to the VPA Terminators and don't see myself shooting anything else for years to come. Nothing tougher than a solid one piece steel head. No welds to crack, easy to sharpen and CNC machined out of 1 piece of steel.