Be Carefrul What You Wish For!!

Colorado Cowboy

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As hunters we are always asking the question "I wonder how much moisture my favorite hunting area is getting". Well the answer here in SW Colorado is LOTS! It has been snowing off & on since before Christmas. Got our first snow just before Thanksgiving just before 4th rifle season opening. Most of the SnoTel sites are now reporting over 100% of normal, the ones in my area are 150 to 175%! I plowed my road and shoveled my garage pad yesterday and this AM there is 8 to 10" and it is forecast to snow all day. The only downside is that it is getting pretty hard for the deer and elk near me to feed. Might be a higher than normal winter kill.

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These pictures were almost 2 weeks ago and we have another 18" since they were taken. Just heard on the news that Flagstaff, Az has had over 30" of snow, more than the last 5 winters combined. Normally we get the majority of our snow in Feb & March.

Guess I'll have some breakfast and get the snow shovel out!
 

SunnyInCO

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Living on the Front Range, I envy your property. It feels like we also have had lots of snow, more than "normal". It's snowing good at my house right now. Being at 6,000' not used to the snow sticking around the yard like it has so far.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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Living on the Front Range, I envy your property. It feels like we also have had lots of snow, more than "normal". It's snowing good at my house right now. Being at 6,000' not used to the snow sticking around the yard like it has so far.
I live at 6800', been here almost 16 years and have only had one other winter like this (2008). Snow then was mostly late winter, not this early. All the lakes around here should get lots of runoff...good fishing this year!!!
 

Granby guy

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We have lots of snow up here as well. The deer are already down on the train tracks. If we don't get some melt on the south facing slopes and we get more snow it might not be good.
 

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been some crazy weather all over, im glad u guys are getting some good snows. and CC, thanks for flying the FLAG at your homestead, less and less people do that anymore, always a good site to see.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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been some crazy weather all over, im glad u guys are getting some good snows. and CC, thanks for flying the FLAG at your homestead, less and less people do that anymore, always a good site to see.
Flies 24/7 . Has since I built my house 15 years ago. As a disabled vet, It's something I just need to do!
 

Awise1

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Do you see elk all the way down into the bean fields outside of Cortez during heavy or prolonged winter snow or do they always stay up in the oak brush? I would imagine there are deer all over the place down low.
 

packmule

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Quite the contrast from what we've been dealt this Winter. Still mowing yards and quite a lot of trees still holding leaves.
 

Eberle

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We are getting our first snow of the year right now. We had floods 2 weeks ago. Been fighting mud feeding cows, but its better than a drought!
 

Gr8bawana

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there is never enough snow. never enough ! the animals have, and will survive winter. always do.
Really? There have been numerous die-offs of deer because of too much snow in the past.


US | Sun May 1, 2011 1:59pm EDT Related: U.S., ENVIRONMENT
Record wildlife die-offs reported in Northern Rockies
SALMON, IDAHO | BY LAURA ZUCKERMAN
A record number of big-game animals perished this winter in parts of Montana, Idaho and Wyoming from a harsh season of unusually heavy snows and sustained cold in the Northern Rockies, state wildlife managers say.

"Elk, deer and moose -- those animals are having a pretty tough time," said Wyoming Game and Fish biologist Doug Brimeyer.

Snow and frigid temperatures in pockets of Idaho, Montana and Wyoming arrived earlier and lingered longer than usual, extending the time that wildlife were forced to forage on low reserves for scarce food, leading more of them to starve.

Based on aerial surveys of big-game herds and signals from radio-collared animals, experts are documenting high mortality among offspring of mule deer, white-tailed deer and pronghorn antelope.

This comes as big-game animals enter the last stretch of a period from mid-March through early May that is considered critical for survival.

Wildlife managers estimate die-offs in the tens of thousands across thousands of square miles that span prairie in northeastern Montana, the upper Snake River basin in Idaho near Yellowstone National Park and the high country of northwestern Wyoming near the exclusive resort of Jackson.

Brimeyer said the estimated death rate doubled among deer fawns in the Jackson area this year, rising to 60 percent or more from 30 percent.

He said many thousands more elk have crowded the feeding grounds of the National Elk Refuge near Jackson, yet another sign of the toll winter is exacting.

The trend also is pronounced in a wildlife management area near McCall in the mountains of central Idaho, where the estimated mortality rate among mule deer fawns is 90 percent this winter, compared with an average annual rate of 20 percent.

Mike Scott, regional wildlife biologist in McCall for the Idaho Department of Fish and Game, said how animals fare during the lean months of winter -- when snow blankets the woody shrubs and wild plants they favor -- is tied to fattening in fall.

"Deer are mostly living on body fat through the winter. If it goes on too long, they run out of gas," he said.

Fawns born in early June are more resilient than fawns born as late as July since older offspring have more time to add to their body mass.

Pronghorn antelope have been hit hard in eastern and northeastern Montana, where wildlife managers say nothing akin to this season's die-offs has been seen in 30-plus years.

Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks biologist Howard Burt said pronghorn in winter seek to migrate to areas of less snow.

This season, that migration turned deadly for 700 or more antelope in northeastern Montana after the animals traveled along plowed railroad corridors and were killed by trains.

Scientists said their aim is to mitigate the effects of the die-offs by reducing pressure placed on herds by such activities as hunting and by delaying opening of wildlife habitat areas to people and vehicles.

As Idaho wildlife biologist Bret Stansberry put it: "We can't do anything about the weather, we can only deal with the aftermath."

(Editing by Steve Gorman and Ellen Wulfhorst)
 

Tim McCoy

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there is never enough snow. never enough ! the animals have, and will survive winter. always do.
You can have too much of a good thing. An extremely bad winter will impact hunting opportunity for several years, often longer. Sure the species will survive, but your favorite honey hole may not.
 

tim

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After our first ever drought, lots of forest fires etc. We need snow for the lakes, rivers, reservoirs ect.
Unlike t ball there are winners and losers.
 

Predatore

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Having a biology degree, I have learned to appreciate the symbiotic nature of ecosystems and how creatures might adapt to changing environments. In this case, perhaps the winter hardships will actually kill off the weaker, less adept foragers and allow the strong ones to move forward to breed for future generations. The effects of this winter may be felt heavily for the next few years, but I'm sure nature will relent and the wildlife will rebound. Like Tim has mentioned, additional snow will benefit other players in nature.

On the other hand, if you believe in global warming (let's not go there!) or just a long stretch of freak weather, and that the environment is permanently changing, then die-offs may occur more frequently and the long-term wildlife populations could take a nose-dive. Who knows at this point and let's hope this isn't the case. In the end, much like wildlife dealing with weather, I suppose us hunters need to be versatile and be able to adapt to affected wildlife populations.