Backcountry Gear List

NVM I forgot that your gear list was attached here. Your tent is really light, and lighter than most bivys in many regards. The bivy will get you an extra 15-20 degrees of insulation on top of the capability of your bag where as a tent usually will only get you around 5 degrees, but it depends on the tent. Also, If i carried a one man tent, I would still carry a tarp because I use it for putting my gear under, not sleeping under, so if I wasn't able to put all my gear in my tent with me, including my pack, bow, food ect, then I would still take the tarp. I like to be prepared for the worst, and I don't trust the weather forecast, so I take the same gear if its forecasted to be snowing every night for a week, or if it is supposed to be 75 and sunny all week.
 

twp1224

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Updated Gear List

I have update my gear list with actual weights instead of manufactures weights. I have also included a hunting list and scouting list.
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elktracker

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I have update my gear list with actual weights instead of manufactures weights. I have also included a hunting list and scouting list.
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Interesting how much some of the gear varied from the manufacturers numbers. I think you forgot to include a pack on your scouting trip list. Thanks for the idea, I have started making a similar list. I think this will really help me cut some pounds and eliminate some items I rarely if ever use.
I see you don't carry a spotting scope, do you ever find yourself wishing you had one or does the country you hunt make one unnecessary? I know I am often surprised at how many more deer and elk I can spot in a big basin after glassing with my binos and then sitting down and really picking it apart with my scope, not to mention the critters I spot that are a few miles off.
 
Interesting how much some of the gear varied from the manufacturers numbers. I think you forgot to include a pack on your scouting trip list. Thanks for the idea, I have started making a similar list. I think this will really help me cut some pounds and eliminate some items I rarely if ever use.
I see you don't carry a spotting scope, do you ever find yourself wishing you had one or does the country you hunt make one unnecessary? I know I am often surprised at how many more deer and elk I can spot in a big basin after glassing with my binos and then sitting down and really picking it apart with my scope, not to mention the critters I spot that are a few miles off.
I would love to have a good spotting scope and I think I could benefit from carrying one. However, I dont have the $$$ for one that is on the upper end of the spectrum, and I would rather save for another year and buy one that I really like as opposed to one to just get me by for now.
 

twp1224

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Interesting how much some of the gear varied from the manufacturers numbers. I think you forgot to include a pack on your scouting trip list. Thanks for the idea, I have started making a similar list. I think this will really help me cut some pounds and eliminate some items I rarely if ever use.
I see you don't carry a spotting scope, do you ever find yourself wishing you had one or does the country you hunt make one unnecessary? I know I am often surprised at how many more deer and elk I can spot in a big basin after glassing with my binos and then sitting down and really picking it apart with my scope, not to mention the critters I spot that are a few miles off.
My go to pack is the Golite Jam for scouting, it should be on the list. It's light and there is no need for my Eberlestock since i wont be carrying any game home with it. I'm glad you found my list useful. Thats one of the reasons i posted it. I dont carry a spotting scope due to the price. I would love to use one, but right now i'm only using my 10x42 binos. I have had situations were a spotting scope could have saved me a lot of walking. I have never used one, but have read a lot about them and it seems you need to spend the big money to get the best. Maybe next year.
 

twp1224

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I would love to have a good spotting scope and I think I could benefit from carrying one. However, I dont have the $$$ for one that is on the upper end of the spectrum, and I would rather save for another year and buy one that I really like as opposed to one to just get me by for now.
I'm in the same boat. I purchased a lot of light weight gear the last two years and have to save up for the spotter. I was looking at the Nikon Fieldscope ED 50. It's still lighter than most and has really good reviews.
 

elktracker

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I'm in the same boat. I purchased a lot of light weight gear the last two years and have to save up for the spotter. I was looking at the Nikon Fieldscope ED 50. It's still lighter than most and has really good reviews.
I looked through an ED 50 last weekend, I was amazed at the clarity. I could see as much or more detail at 30x on the ED 50 as I could on a Vortex Nomad at 40x and even 60x and it was so much brighter it was unreal. I guess it's true, you get what you pay for.

I am in the same boat as well, I don't have a scope of my own right now either but I have used some higher end Nikon and Kowa scopes for work and they are worth the money. This is what I meant by being surprised at seeing more animals through "my" scope in my last post.

I am still debating whether or not to buy a cheaper scope this year and use it until I can afford something high end or to just do without until I can get some good glass. I think even a cheaper scope at 20-60x will reveal a lot more than a pair of 10x binos. Of course the expensive glass really shines at low light and at higher magnifications, not to mention the better eye relief, focus, warranty and over all quality of higher end scopes. Sorry, got way off topic there.
 

twp1224

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I looked through an ED 50 last weekend, I was amazed at the clarity. I could see as much or more detail at 30x on the ED 50 as I could on a Vortex Nomad at 40x and even 60x and it was so much brighter it was unreal. I guess it's true, you get what you pay for.

I am in the same boat as well, I don't have a scope of my own right now either but I have used some higher end Nikon and Kowa scopes for work and they are worth the money. This is what I meant by being surprised at seeing more animals through "my" scope in my last post.

I am still debating whether or not to buy a cheaper scope this year and use it until I can afford something high end or to just do without until I can get some good glass. I think even a cheaper scope at 20-60x will reveal a lot more than a pair of 10x binos. Of course the expensive glass really shines at low light and at higher magnifications, not to mention the better eye relief, focus, warranty and over all quality of higher end scopes. Sorry, got way off topic there.
No problem about getting off topic. I really enjoy hearing from other avid hunters and hearing that the Nikon spotter has the high quality that I'm looking for real helps in my decision making process. Thank you.
 

Mrelite

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twp1224, I am just looking at what direction I want to go with my equipment so I can't help with your original post but I do have a question about your tent. Have you had any regrets that you don't have the 2 person Agnes since there isn't a big difference in weight?
I have been looking at the one person but some years in NM we have a ton of rain and it seems it would be great to have enough room to have your gear in the tent.

Good thread!
 

twp1224

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twp1224, I am just looking at what direction I want to go with my equipment so I can't help with your original post but I do have a question about your tent. Have you had any regrets that you don't have the 2 person Agnes since there isn't a big difference in weight?
I have been looking at the one person but some years in NM we have a ton of rain and it seems it would be great to have enough room to have your gear in the tent.

Good thread!
Mrelite,
I really like the 1 man. I'm 5'-10" and 165lbs and it's a perfect size. I can sit up in it and get dressed or wait out the weather. I have heard some people complain that the 1 man is too small, but I have not found this true. I put all my clothes, food, etc. in the tent with me. The tent tapers from your head to your feet, being larger at the head. The tent is 42" wide at the head. My sleeping pad is 20" wide. This gives me 11" on each side, that tapers down to my feet of course, that i can put items. I leave my pack and bow out of the tent in a black trash bag. I put my boots and stove in the vestibule are, for easy access in the morning. I think it's a great tent. Having a small footprint dimension gives me more options when looking for a bedding site as well. If you’re planning on being in the tent with all your gear for a considerable amount of time while the weather clears, then maybe look at the UL2. Like you said the weight isn't that different between the two.
I hope this answered your question or at least helped a little.
 

plentycoupe

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Only thing I would suggest is a Kifaru KU3700 or 5200. That would cut nearly 4 pounds of weight. A huge savings.
I own the 5200 and have packed 68 pounds in it. Very nice for a 3 pound pack. I am taking mine sheep hunting next year.

TAG bags are a great lightweight game bag as well. Very durable, easily cleaned and ultra light.

Thanks for the thread.
 

Maxhunter

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what's wrong with your list now? I don't really see how you could cut that much further except lighter pack and less water. 30lbs is pretty light already.
I agreed what he said on the pack. The only thing is maybe a Neo Air pad instead of the Big Agnes.
 
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I have to make a better one this off season...I tend to pack the maybe stuff...
Picked up a new jet boil...Goose down jacket..now...findout how to get that new UA raingear...then would be set for light weight.