Another terrorist attack?

Musket Man

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well, keep telling yourself that. who knows ,one day you just might convince yourself.
We dont need you to win. Go ahead and turn your guns in. The only reason you can post what you do is because someone like me went and fought to give you that freedom. "Liberty or death, dont tread on me". Some of us stand for that and live and die for it. Others live in the freedom those men gave them and will never understand what it means.
 

kidoggy

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I'm just havin some fun at your expense. stirin the pot ,so to speak, simply because it is so very easy to do.

I agree with your sentiments just find your methods, ridiculous. screaming ,I WILL NOT COMPLY, is not conducive to getting legislation passed that will prevent that war you so crave. it is actually going to help bring about the gun bans , most of us don't want but I believe you seem to long for. same as illegally killing wolf pups ain't gonna save hunting but most probably cost us our hunting priviledges.

I will do what I must ,when those days come. until the I find the hero rhetoric humorous.



you may be a good ally in time of war but not peacetime.
 
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B&C Blacktails

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On the surface it sounds good no one on a terrorist watch list or no fly list can but a gun. The trouble is what puts people on those lists. They would twist it around little by little until all of us were on a list and couldnt buy a gun.
I got into a fight with a co-worker, I didn't start the fight but I was forced to go to anger management classes. That could very well give the liberals the excuse to put me on those same lists.

Musket man is spot on!
 

Murdy

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Allowing the government to deny a right (or privilege for that matter, due process isn't limited to constitutional rights) by its own decree by placing someone on a watch list without providing notice of the deprivation to the individual and an opportunity for the individual to contest the decision runs contrary to the most basic principles of due process (i.e., notice and an opportunity to be heard). This isn't just about gun rights, even if right now that's what the focus is on. It would set a horrible precedent that could be used for the government / law-enforcement to deny, seize, deprive citizens of rights, liberties, property, privileges through executive action alone without judicial oversight. We all remember checks and balances from eighth grade civics class. This would eliminate the judicial check that is supposed to protect individuals from erroneous deprivations--guns or otherwise.
 

Musket Man

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I'm just havin some fun at your expense. stirin the pot ,so to speak, simply because it is so very easy to do.

I agree with your sentiments just find your methods, ridiculous. screaming ,I WILL NOT COMPLY, is not conducive to getting legislation passed that will prevent that war you so crave. it is actually going to help bring about the gun bans , most of us don't want but I believe you seem to long for. same as illegally killing wolf pups ain't gonna save hunting but most probably cost us our hunting priviledges.

I will do what I must ,when those days come. until the I find the hero rhetoric humorous.



you may be a good ally in time of war but not peacetime.
My methods are not ridiculous. its called standing up for what you believe in and not backing down from what is right. I do not crave any war here but if it comes you can bet your last dollar I will fight in it.