9 BP for deer and elk

Roger L

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Hi,
I have 9 BP for both deer and elk going into this years draw(and 10 for antelope). I would like to go on a good guided hunt for mule deer(1st choice) or Elk. I will be 69 years old this hunting season so I'd prefer a wilderness hunt on horseback as opposed to backpacking.
I still get around the mountains. I did a one week drop camp in the Arc Dome Wilderness of Nevada this past season.
Any suggestions on a good outfitter would be appreciated.
Roger
 

RICMIC

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I had a deer hunt booked in H for 2018, but when I was on an elk hunt with the outfitter this fall, he recommended that I wait a couple years since the herd took a real hit from the previous winter. I would suggest that you look elsewhere than the west part of WY, unless you have some good info telling you otherwise. You will find that the "good" outfitters are generally booked a couple years in advance, so if you find one with an opening for next year, make sure you check them out before sending any money.
 

Umpqua Hunter

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Yep, with the winter kill on deer a year or so ago, you'd likely be better doing your elk now and deer a couple years after that.

I know nothing about "Non-Typical Outfitters" but they are very consistent on some of the biggest bucks taken by an outfitter each year. I believe they hunt Region G. Check out the Outfitter awards brochures to see who is consistent on big bucks.

With this link you can click through year by year to see which outfitters take the best animals in the state and from that determine who is the most consistent each year from the 2017 awards all the way back to 2006. In the last five years, three names tend to pop up year after year for mule deer....Non-Typical Outfitters, Table Mountain Outfitters and Grizzly Outfitters with Non-Typical dominating the awards:

https://www.wyoga.org/wyoga-big-game-awards.php

For elk, I would look at look at Unit 7 with the "Special" tag. It drew at 71% with 8 points last year (your point pool), so with 9 this year you should draw. Outfitted on private would be best and I have heard Wagonhound Outfitters does well.

http://www.wagonhound.com/wagonhound-outfitting

For antelope, I personally would go on a DIY, as there is no "funner" hunt, carve out 7-10 days and TAKE YOUR TIME looking over a pile of bucks. If you want an outfitter for a BIG buck, I would strongly recommend calling Pronghorn Guide Service and talking to Eli Grimmett. I believe they are the best pronghorn outfitters in the country and they head up to Wyoming and outfit there as part of circuit guiding the top areas in Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming. They CONSISTENTLY take HUGE antelope in all three states.

http://www.pronghornguideservice.com
 

Roger L

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I had a deer hunt booked in H for 2018, but when I was on an elk hunt with the outfitter this fall, he recommended that I wait a couple years since the herd took a real hit from the previous winter. I would suggest that you look elsewhere than the west part of WY, unless you have some good info telling you otherwise. You will find that the "good" outfitters are generally booked a couple years in advance, so if you find one with an opening for next year, make sure you check them out before sending any money.
Thanks for the feed back. The winter kill was one of my concerns. So it will be elk and/or antelope this years. Thanks again!
 

ChadH

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Nov 22, 2011
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Hi, Roger L... I can't help you with guided Elk or Deer hunts. I've got 7 points for Elk and I'm wondering WHY... I'm really just posting to say, "You're my hero!"... Arc Dome at 68... Nicely done! Did you have buddies with you? How'd you do?

Keep at it brother!
 

WapitiBob

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At your age a horse camp Elk hunt around the Park might be the icing on a long hunting career. Take the wife along and make a vacation you won't forget.
 

mntnguide

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With that amount of points for elk.. you might want to try for a good unit instead of general tag. Trails west outfitters, Josh martoglio now owns it, hunts some great area and I think you could draw the tag with those points. He is either unit 62 or 63 I believe.. they take good bulls and it's a backcountry horseback hunt to its entirety. He is a top notch outfitter from everything I've heard through the outfitter/guide grapevine. Also, take a look at Wood River Ranch outfitters, similar areas and they have both horseback pack in camp and ranch hunts, and they harvest some great bulls with very high success rates... If you want to go into the Teton wilderness on a general tag, my suggestions would be, Triangle X Ranch outfitters, Yellowstone Outfitters, Wapiti Ridge Outfitters, and Boulder Basin Outfitters. All are horseback pack in, and are top notch outfitters. But in your case, I would try to use those points for more than just a general tag.

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Browning 300

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Avoid Boulder Basin Outfitters !!!! We got scammed by Carl this year !! He is deceitful, indifferent, and incompetent. He wanted more money after we drove 2300 miles to his place, had not secured a place to hunt antelope as promised, and would not take us in to his tent camp for elk as promised. We ended up hunting antelope at an extra cost with another outfitter. He lied to us for 10 months !!!
 

Browning 300

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I have filed an affidavit with the Wyoming Outfitter Licensing Board. Their investigator has called me and my group members. We have each spent over an hour on the phone with him.
 

wy-tex

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Yep, with the winter kill on deer a year or so ago, you'd likely be better doing your elk now and deer a couple years after that.

I know nothing about "Non-Typical Outfitters" but they are very consistent on some of the biggest bucks taken by an outfitter each year. I believe they hunt Region G. Check out the Outfitter awards brochures to see who is consistent on big bucks.

With this link you can click through year by year to see which outfitters take the best animals in the state and from that determine who is the most consistent each year from the 2017 awards all the way back to 2006. In the last five years, three names tend to pop up year after year for mule deer....Non-Typical Outfitters, Table Mountain Outfitters and Grizzly Outfitters with Non-Typical dominating the awards:

https://www.wyoga.org/wyoga-big-game-awards.php

For elk, I would look at look at Unit 7 with the "Special" tag. It drew at 71% with 8 points last year (your point pool), so with 9 this year you should draw. Outfitted on private would be best and I have heard Wagonhound Outfitters does well.

http://www.wagonhound.com/wagonhound-outfitting

For antelope, I personally would go on a DIY, as there is no "funner" hunt, carve out 7-10 days and TAKE YOUR TIME looking over a pile of bucks. If you want an outfitter for a BIG buck, I would strongly recommend calling Pronghorn Guide Service and talking to Eli Grimmett. I believe they are the best pronghorn outfitters in the country and they head up to Wyoming and outfit there as part of circuit guiding the top areas in Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming. They CONSISTENTLY take HUGE antelope in all three states.

http://www.pronghornguideservice.com
Table Mt outfitters hunts some areas not really known for big deer but they are there, they have leased up some new spots that will pay off, personally don't like them but they have some good ground now.
Wagonhound has a newer camp that is producing some great bulls. I know the guide there personally and just had a nice talk with him couple of weeks ago. Their new camp is cheaper, $9,500 , wow can't imagine paying that for a hunt. Big bulls and the guide is a great guy. It is a nice tent camp.
Pronghorn Guide Service speaks for itself, they know big antelope.
 

mallardsx2

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Slightly off topic but...

$6000 +tag for deer
$10000 +tag for elk

This is what is has come down to. lol

One day I will be saying to my grandchildren: "I remember when it only cost $6000 +tag for deer and only
$10000 +tag for elk! "
 

Mnbogboy

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Got 8 elk points here. The tag + points are close to my monthly social security check. Can't imagine close to a half a years income to pay an outfitter. This is what happened in most of Europe where only the rich could afford to hunt.
 

wy-tex

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Got 8 elk points here. The tag + points are close to my monthly social security check. Can't imagine close to a half a years income to pay an outfitter. This is what happened in most of Europe where only the rich could afford to hunt.
I hear ya. Plenty of great DIY hunting to be had without a second mortgage. Just throwing out some suggestions that I couldn't think of going on.
I would look at the area the successful outfitters hunt and do some research on hunting them. Yes they have private leases but it gives you an idea of what the areas hold. I do think Table Mtn will change the drawing odds on the area they signed new leases, sucks for our friends that draw it with 0-1 PP.