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Work2hunt
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I understand your frustration, but I dont see a lot of posts asking for exact specifics. Some may ask for generalities about what units are better than others to help narrow the field. Some people dont have any idea on how to scout for a trip 500 or 1000 mi away from home. Some requests are worded well some are not . Not everyone can make a trip to the mountains every year. For some it may be a true once in a lifetime trip.
Just remember that we are all a part of the same community. Take a breath and share some info if you have it and want to. Otherwise dont. At least they are in the woods enjoying the same passion as the rest of us and trying.
Just remember that we are all a part of the same community. Take a breath and share some info if you have it and want to. Otherwise dont. At least they are in the woods enjoying the same passion as the rest of us and trying.
JimP
Administrator
Two spots and both of them are in Utah. Antelope Island but since you are a non resident you will have to go with the auction tag. Figure $300,000 as a starting bid.
The other is the Henry Mountains, in my opinion the primer mule deer unit in the West. However expect to wait 20+ years for a tag in the draw unless you are a resident. Then you might be able to get into the archery hunt with 6-10 points.
JimP
Administrator
I forgot there is also a ranch hunt for non residents that also have the big bucks. It is on the Kennecot Copper mine property, I have no idea of how much their hunts go for but here is a picture of what you can expect.
Slugz
Veteran member
CB completely understand and agree with ya. My son and I sat down this year post our September hunts and I told him I ws going to be a little more selfish with regards to hunting info and who I help.
We had two bad experiences this year that will forever change my way of thinking.
1) Dude comes to camp and was not as savvy as he let on to be and not appreciative of me showing him my honey hole ( friend)
2) Another dude I hook up for a rock solid meat hunt 1st rifle and he bitches about other people there, weather and he didn't take the chains I told him in the very first communication we had.
What is normal for some is another mans torture (quote from another post)
I just had experience #3 this year when a man on my couch just flat out asked " what I looking for is just where to go" like a lat long. He was new to CO and there was too much data to pour over and its all very confusing. " Its much simpler in my box blind in Texas on the ranch" ( private)
So yeah I get it. Burn some leather my friends, sweat a little more, research your own data base.....
PS: I'll still help the fellow hunter who puts in the time, scouts, sweats......and brings Scotch to elk camp
We had two bad experiences this year that will forever change my way of thinking.
1) Dude comes to camp and was not as savvy as he let on to be and not appreciative of me showing him my honey hole ( friend)
2) Another dude I hook up for a rock solid meat hunt 1st rifle and he bitches about other people there, weather and he didn't take the chains I told him in the very first communication we had.
What is normal for some is another mans torture (quote from another post)
I just had experience #3 this year when a man on my couch just flat out asked " what I looking for is just where to go" like a lat long. He was new to CO and there was too much data to pour over and its all very confusing. " Its much simpler in my box blind in Texas on the ranch" ( private)
So yeah I get it. Burn some leather my friends, sweat a little more, research your own data base.....
PS: I'll still help the fellow hunter who puts in the time, scouts, sweats......and brings Scotch to elk camp
Slugz
Veteran member
Prerylyon
Veteran member
I've been thinking about how I can contribute something to this thread?
I like to think I've matured a bit as a hunter, even deep in middle age; since I joined the forum. If I looked back far enough, some of my posts or messages likely were shameless pleadings for the inside scoop on a tag or a unit. I guess I do less of that sort of thing today, but what makes something shameless or not is going be up to personal opinions.
Is a post like mine from last weekend asking about Montana type B elk tags taking it too far? I guess I don't know.
What I like about this forum, is how it brings together hunters from all over; and provides a means for us to interact, connect, and discuss our shared interests.
CB makes excellent points. This yr, I really enjoyed the quiet of my antelope hunt. I hiked many miles for several days seeing few animals in that beautiful silence. On the 4th day I got one; and it was all over. It really was over. Of course, the nature of the hunt changed at that point: from the search and pursuit to butchering and caring for the meat. But what was over was that beautiful silence. I missed it quickly and noticed it.
2017 season was a turning point for me. I realized I accepted getting skunked on my 1st DIY elk hunt. Again, it was the beautiful silence amidst snow capped peaks, mule deer and moose that overpowered and surpassed the smell of skunk tag soup.
So yeah, find a unit with game; with enough public access, and just do it. Enjoy the silence. In the end, you will know why you are here, and what you harvested out of the shared experience.
Regards,
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I like to think I've matured a bit as a hunter, even deep in middle age; since I joined the forum. If I looked back far enough, some of my posts or messages likely were shameless pleadings for the inside scoop on a tag or a unit. I guess I do less of that sort of thing today, but what makes something shameless or not is going be up to personal opinions.
Is a post like mine from last weekend asking about Montana type B elk tags taking it too far? I guess I don't know.
What I like about this forum, is how it brings together hunters from all over; and provides a means for us to interact, connect, and discuss our shared interests.
CB makes excellent points. This yr, I really enjoyed the quiet of my antelope hunt. I hiked many miles for several days seeing few animals in that beautiful silence. On the 4th day I got one; and it was all over. It really was over. Of course, the nature of the hunt changed at that point: from the search and pursuit to butchering and caring for the meat. But what was over was that beautiful silence. I missed it quickly and noticed it.
2017 season was a turning point for me. I realized I accepted getting skunked on my 1st DIY elk hunt. Again, it was the beautiful silence amidst snow capped peaks, mule deer and moose that overpowered and surpassed the smell of skunk tag soup.
So yeah, find a unit with game; with enough public access, and just do it. Enjoy the silence. In the end, you will know why you are here, and what you harvested out of the shared experience.
Regards,
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk
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I ain't" harvested" nuthin since I left the farm. I generally kill something every year though.
but I don't often hunt for horns any more . don't get me wrong I still love the antlers, have just come to the place where I am as happy knowing I could have and didn't, then actually killing it. in fact wether or not I kill something is not really all that important to me anymore. I mostly hunt just to get out there and see what I will see..
one runs across some pretty cool things when ya get out there.
but I don't often hunt for horns any more . don't get me wrong I still love the antlers, have just come to the place where I am as happy knowing I could have and didn't, then actually killing it. in fact wether or not I kill something is not really all that important to me anymore. I mostly hunt just to get out there and see what I will see..
one runs across some pretty cool things when ya get out there.
Timberstalker
Veteran member
I pride myself in doing my homework and figuring things out in my own. Lately I have found myself becoming more open to suggestions and trying new areas that people from forums have suggested. The buck I killed this year was in an area I would have never hunted if not for someone suggesting I hunt there. Although I was happy to kill a nice buck the hunt itself was not as satisfying to me knowing I had help. For me there is great satisfaction in knowing I found the spot, learned it and succeeded. My 2015 archery elk was probably my favorite, over twenty years hunting that spot before finally killing a big bull there.
I know I will be seeking info on out of state hunts soon, I started buying points a few years ago knowing when I turn 50 I will start trying to cash in on them. I am already wondering if that type of hunting will do it for me or will I find more satisfying hunting in my stomping grounds.
I know I will be seeking info on out of state hunts soon, I started buying points a few years ago knowing when I turn 50 I will start trying to cash in on them. I am already wondering if that type of hunting will do it for me or will I find more satisfying hunting in my stomping grounds.
RICMIC
Veteran member
I've always said that you don't really know someone until you either live with them or work with them. I guess that I should also add, "hunt with them." Of course, you are living and working with others when you hunt with them. For those who didn't grow up with it, and especially for us eastern flatlanders, we have no real concept of what a western hunt entails. It's a learning process and we all are newbies at some point. For many, if not most, a hunt out west is a once in a lifetime quest, except for those of us who get hooked....then it consumes us.
I think a lot of this wanting to kill nothing but a trophy whether they've paid their dues or not mentality comes from the advent of social media and tv hunting shows along with today's intant gratification society. They see trophy animals being shot on tv all the time in a 30 minute show and think that is how it really is. They see something on their phones and they can get it right now.
Mostly the younger hunting crowd I think. Very few of them want to actually put in the work of finding good areas and finding animals even if they do live where it's possible. I say they need to burn up some boot leather and work up a sweat before they ask for "where is the best place to hunt?"
Just the rantings of an old farts who learned where to hunt by trial and error.
Mostly the younger hunting crowd I think. Very few of them want to actually put in the work of finding good areas and finding animals even if they do live where it's possible. I say they need to burn up some boot leather and work up a sweat before they ask for "where is the best place to hunt?"
Just the rantings of an old farts who learned where to hunt by trial and error.