17 Elk bonus points in AZ

[Cervus canadensis]

Some friends and I were having a debate a work today. What would it be worth to someone to be applicant B on an AZ elk application if applicant A had 17 bonus points?
Thanks and good luck this fall.

 

[Fink]

That might depend on how many points applicant B had?

 

[Cervus canadensis]

Lets say they had between 2 and 5. Combining with applicant A would virtually guarantee them most archery bull hunts in the state.

 

[Umpqua Hunter]

It TOTALLY DEPENDS on applicant A who has 17 points and what their goals are and it should be their choice what to do with their points. With 17 points they are on the verge of some great tags, including some of the lesser quality early firearm tags.

I personally have 15 points for Arizona elk. I am within a few years of a Unit 9 archery tag. My son has 10 points and has never had a quality elk tag. I am seriously considering applying with him for a unit like Unit 1. In Arizona, they round the point up, so we would go in the draw with 13 points.

 

[Cervus canadensis]

Unit 1 has some very nice bulls. Now after the fire the sky is the limit. Congrats on that Grand Slam.

 

[brooks]

I have 11 AZ points.... unit 9 in September or bust. You have 17 points, what have you been holding out for ? With 17 it would be hard for me to backup several years and settle for a unit I could have drawn a few years ago. I don't know what it would be worth but if your friends are nonres. it puts them up the ladder quit a ways . It ought to be worth an expense paid by them..... hunting trip in AZ.

 

[The Deer]

Some friends and I were having a debate a work today. What would it be worth to someone to be applicant B on an AZ elk application if applicant A had 17 bonus points?
Thanks and good luck this fall.

I would be open to suggestions or negotiations I have 6 points

 

[jdan9]

My son has 17 NR points. He hasn't elk hunted one day in his life. Been busy with college, sports, etc... I have 7, not sure what to do, he can bow hunt 9 solo or we can bow hunt unit 1 together. Tough decision for us. Did I mention I have a lot of money invested in his points!!

 

[WapitiBob]

I wouldn't hunt two tags in 1 if it was me. Especially with a greenhorn. You'll be worrying about getting him a bull and he'll be worrying about you not getting one. Take the kid hunting in 9 and he'll be settled in by the time you get to 11/12 points for your own tag and he can pay back the favor.

 

[Musket Man]

I hope I never get 17 points anywhere! I have enough trouble letting go of 4 or 5 of them. The exception may be Nevada and sheep/goats/moose in my home state but other then that I look for units I can hunt with 5 points or less. I think if I saved that many points in a state that far away I would put to much pressure on myself once I did draw the tag. Nevada is close enough I can get down there to scout so its the only state I apply for long shots in.

 

[The Deer]

I hope I never get 17 points anywhere! I have enough trouble letting go of 4 or 5 of them. The exception may be Nevada and sheep/goats/moose in my home state but other then that I look for units I can hunt with 5 points or less. I think if I saved that many points in a state that far away I would put to much pressure on myself once I did draw the tag. Nevada is close enough I can get down there to scout so its the only state I apply for long shots in.

I wish that were not the case with me but most likely I will get to 17 for elk here in Oregon, most likey Utah and a handful of other states

 

[Musket Man]

I wish that were not the case with me but most likely I will get to 17 for elk here in Oregon, most likey Utah and a handful of other states

Thats alot of points in alot of places but eventually you will draw some awesome tags!!

 

[whiskeytango]

Somebody's gotta draw. I get something almost every year now after about 10 years of applying here and there. I didn't read the regs closely in Arizona and accidentally drew a bull tag on my 4th choice crappy hunt and blew almost 10 points. I'm still upset and it's been 2 years now. No ones fault but my own but at least i started applying in my 20's so I've got a chance to enjoy the fruits of my planning/dreaming.
My .02 - find hunts you can go and do with your points, especially for elk. Crap happens that you can't control so get out and hunt b/c no one tells us when we're going to get sick, injured or too broken down to do it anymore.

Happy new year to everyone and good luck with your applications and hunts in 2014.

 

[Musket Man]

Somebody's gotta draw. I get something almost every year now after about 10 years of applying here and there. I didn't read the regs closely in Arizona and accidentally drew a bull tag on my 4th choice crappy hunt and blew almost 10 points. I'm still upset and it's been 2 years now. No ones fault but my own but at least i started applying in my 20's so I've got a chance to enjoy the fruits of my planning/dreaming.
My .02 - find hunts you can go and do with your points, especially for elk. Crap happens that you can't control so get out and hunt b/c no one tells us when we're going to get sick, injured or too broken down to do it anymore.

Happy new year to everyone and good luck with your applications and hunts in 2014.

Very true 'somebodys gotta draw' but for some tags the odds just arent there. I have nothing against anyone building 20 plus points, its just not for me so I generally look for hunts I can draw with 3-5 points.

 

[WapitiBob]

I burned my AZ points last year, keeping my 2 perm points. I don't see them ever getting above 5 from this point on. And 5 will get me in the max pool on a bunch of late Elk hunts.

 

[MWScott72]

QUOTE=jdan9;69344]My son has 17 NR points. He hasn't elk hunted one day in his life. Been busy with college, sports, etc... I have 7, not sure what to do, he can bow hunt 9 solo or we can bow hunt unit 1 together. Tough decision for us. Did I mention I have a lot of money invested in his points!![/QUOTE]
Man, that's a lot of pressure to put on oneself! No time to hunt elk for 17 years...what is he, an indentured servant? You can't learn how to hunt elk by building a pile of points. At some point, you have to get out and do it. I guess he could go guided and shift some of that pressure onto the guiding service.

 

[jdan9]

MW,

Indentured servant..funny, I had a hard time getting him to mow the lawn!! He played hockey through HS and college, not a lot of free time in the fall! Now he's in the working world. Over the years he has been on quite a few western deer hunts, those were a little easier to manage when he had a 3-5 day window that he could get away. In addition to his AZ points, he has them in WY, CO and UT. He has no clue what he has! If he desires he'll get plenty of opportunities to learn how to chase elk!