The Corner-Crossing War Is (Mostly) Over…For Now

[lukew]

Big news! It looks like this chapter of the corner-crossing saga has finally come to a close, or at least as close as it’s going to get for now... read more
https://blog.eastmans.com/the-corner-crossing-war-is-mostly-overfor-now/

 

[ScottR]

Thanks for posting this @lukew ! Good overview @heyjbales !

 

[tim]

it would be nice to know, if it is legal in the other 44 states, that are not in the 10th circuit.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

it would be nice to know, if it is legal in the other 44 states, that are not in the 10th circuit.

The action ONLY applies to the 10 Circuit Federal Court and the states that in it's area.

 

[Ikeepitcold]

Hopefully the other states that have the same problem will follow suit

 

[ScottR]

So one thing that Jaden didn't cover in depth in this article is that finding the actual corner can be tough. Mapping systems can be off by 10-15 feet and that is 10-15 feet of trespassing. Unless there is a spike at the corner it's going to be tough, the reason those guys were able to prove this out in court is the marker was present. Unfortunately this may lead to a LOT more trespassing cases.

 

[Ikeepitcold]

I would think that would be up to the landowner to prove property lines if they are that worried about trespassing?

 

[idcwby]

I would think that would be up to the landowner to prove property lines if they are that worried about trespassing?

Depends on how the state’s trespass law reads.
A few years ago Idaho changed theirs, so now it’s up to the hunter to know the boundaries.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Depends on how the state’s trespass law reads.
A few years ago Idaho changed theirs, so now it’s up to the hunter to know the boundaries.

Lots of states are doing this. Especially since GPS are now so cheap and there are many programs out there that tell where you are and who owns the land...public & private.

 

[JimP]

One problem with the GPS land quadrants is that they may be off just enough to confuse people. I can stand on one of my corner stakes and both of my mapping devices show it slightly off. One is OnX on my phone and the other is the chip in my GPS.

But both show it close enough that I need to pay attention as to where I'm at.

 

[heyjbales]

So one thing that Jaden didn't cover in depth in this article is that finding the actual corner can be tough. Mapping systems can be off by 10-15 feet and that is 10-15 feet of trespassing. Unless there is a spike at the corner it's going to be tough, the reason those guys were able to prove this out in court is the marker was present. Unfortunately this may lead to a LOT more trespassing cases.

This is so true. And there aren’t corner markers at EVERY corner. Which can mean the total acres of landlocked ground that are now accessible is a lot smaller than we thought… it would take a LOT of leg work to figure out which corner markers exist and which ones don’t. I’m not planning any hunts around it, that’s for sure.

 

[heyjbales]

For these situations where a corner marker is not known, for the landowner or the hunter who needs to know the boundary (let’s say for a legal case), do you think they’d have to bring out survey equipment and redefine the corner publicly for folks to know where it is in the future?