Any 264wm believers out there?

[hardstalk]

Curious if there are any 264 believers on the site. Ive pondering the idea of liquidating my 270wsm to fund a barrel and revamp on my grandfathers old model 70 264wm (1965 acc. To the numbers) It was handed down a few years ago and has been collecting dust after a couple hundred bucks worth of ammo concluded the barrel was done in on it.

I realize the 270wsm and 264wm are very close as far as ballistics go. Just find myself going back and forth on the decision to part with the 270. Im a one gun kinda guy. Mostly bow hunt but threw in a couple rifle choices this season. I was curious of any pros or cons on both to push me over the edge on making the decision. Thanks in advance fellas!

 

[hvfd21walker]

264 is a good caliber. If I ever get the chance to pick one up I will. Just cause.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

That rifle is a classic. A friend used to have one and it shot really well. Unfortunately he sold it without asking me if I wanted it. I would have scooped it up in a heartbeat! I have a .257 Wby that shoots pretty lose to it, but with lighter bullets.

 

[buckbull]

.264 is great but I don't think I'd trade it in for the .270wsm that you have.

 

[KILLBUX]

I sold a 270wsm a while back to fund a 264 WinMag build. If I had an opportunity to do it again, I would in a heartbeat. If you take a close look at the ballistics, the 264 is right on the heels of a 7mm rem mag with less recoil. If you research the internet, most will complain that the 264 is a barrel burner. Most of the magnum rounds that are common hunting cartridges today could arguably be classified this way as well. My 264 shoots 140 bergers just over 3100 fps, and is not a hot load. GO FOR IT AND DON'T LOOK BACK!

 

[hardstalk]

Thanks guys. I have had a few different opinions. Majority lean toward the removal of the 270. Some say go with the 6.5x284. Some say go with the 6.5 creedmore but save the original barrel for future use. Alot of choices with the mod 70 action. I think it boils down ti what do I look for in my only game rifle. I like long distance capability. Minimal recoil (easier to hand off to the wife and still be enjoyable) and im really leaning toward a pack gun so sub 7-6.5 lbs would be ideal. Keep the knowledge coming.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

One thing you must keep in mind....the older cartidges that had/have the reputation as "barrel burners" were started when there was a completely different selection of powders on the market. Today we have some very superior slow burning powders that really lend themselves to these calibers....used to be called "over bore". My .220 Ackley Swift is a perfect example. I have shot 1000's of rounds thru it at around 4,000 fps and there appears to be littl or no barrel wear.

 

[mt-mike]

I've stayed loyal to my Pre-'64, Model-70, 264-win mag for about 50-yrs now. Here's a picture of it with a buck taken in November, 2007. It still shoots a tight group at 300-yards. The only trouble I've had is when I've tried to use it in the timber. Very unforgiving if you you hit the smallest twig or fir bough.

 

[hardstalk]

Went for it. Dropped off the 270wsm and 264wm to my buddy. He got on it that day. Ripping and tearing apart the 48 year old rifle. I told him to scrap any additional metal and we are debating either a bell and carlson or a mcmillan stock for it. Haven't even shot a rifle since 2010 so im pretty excited to see grandpas ole trusty steed back in action. (With a modern twist of course) here are a few pics he sent yesterday the first one had a quote asking if this is of sentimental value or can he dispose of it. the second is the trigger guard he began machining some extra weight from.

 

[sjsmallfield]

That fist pic is so funny. A few years back I took apart my grandfathers Remington Bushmaster .30-06 to clean it. The barrel was clean as a whistle but I think he brought home more manzanita in the action than he left in the woods.

 

[1100 Remington Man]

I think Winchester hit a home run for the ultimate Western Deer & Antelope Rifle in the .264 Win Mag. I will say if you don't reload look elsewhere. I just last year redid my Model 70 in H S Precision Stock & Cerakote & I could not be happier.

 

[hardstalk]

What did the coating cost ya? I went with a bell and carleson stock (military brown with black splatter) and would like to match the action and barrel after fluting is done.

 

[1100 Remington Man]

Hardstalk it cost $ 145.00 look up my post updating Model 70. Good Hunting

 

[hardstalk]

Wow. Thats almost a duplicate of the stock I ordered! Looks killer. I have been trying to find someone local to do the coating but no luck yet.

 

[trkytrack2]

Fantastic caliber and super rifle. Handloading is just about a must; finding any factory ammo is tough but not impossible. The only thing I don't care for in most of the magnum rifles is the 24/26 inch barrel length on most of them. I prefer shorter barrels no longer than 22 inches.

 

[trkytrack2]

I've stayed loyal to my Pre-'64, Model-70, 264-win mag for about 50-yrs now. Here's a picture of it with a buck taken in November, 2007. It still shoots a tight group at 300-yards. The only trouble I've had is when I've tried to use it in the timber. Very unforgiving if you you hit the smallest twig or fir bough.

No caliber of rifle will shoot through twigs, brush, etc.; no matter what weight bullet is used; etc., etc.; etc. Anyone that says theirs will, I say PROVE IT.

 

[hardstalk]

Finally got the stock. Still shaving weight wherever possible. Just under 6 lbs currently.

 

[hardstalk]

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[packmule]

I'm a believer in the 6.5 caliber (260/6.5x284), but not so much the 264 bc I'd rather use that much case capacity to push heavier bullets. Having said that I'm kicking around the idea of getting a 6.5wsm made in an ultralight rifle.

 

[mcseal2]

I've taken most of the game in my album with my favorite rifle, originally a 300WM but now a 264WM. I've had excellent terminal performance at a variety of ranges from the 140gr accubond and more recently the 140gr Berger VLD. I truly prefer the performance of the accubond but the Berger cut my groups in half and improved my hits at longer range especially in the wind. I cuss the Berger for doing what it is supposed to rather than exiting but nothing I've shot with it has traveled over 30yds. The 270WSM and 264WM have shown identical excellent terminal performance with the 140gr accubond for me. Biggest disadvantage of the 264 is that it requires a longer rifle to shine. Mine has a 25" barrel but longer adds speed.

For a short easy packing mountain muley or sheep gun, the 270WSM is hard to beat. For real long shots with current bullets the 264WM is darn hard to beat. I love them both.

I think both the 270WSM and 264 will benefit from the new long range accubond when it becomes available. I'm right now in the process of getting my dad's old rifle re-build into a 270 win designed around the 150gr LRAB. After weighing the parts it should be right at 8.36lbs scoped, slung, loaded, and ready to hunt.