7 rem mag

theddguide

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I've been wanting to get one or a 270 wsm and finally decided (I think) I want the 7 mag. What has me second guessing this decision is I've been told by a couple different people "don't get a 7 mag, it's not much better than a 270 or 280" or "it's got a belt and it could separate" to " it's only popular because of marketing and its just not what it's cracked up to be".

I know, I know. Get what I want and be done with it; but I'm wondering why is there this negativity or dissatisfaction looming around the 7 mag? Why have some people told me to avoid it and just get a short mag?

Derek

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Mr Drysdale

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To each his own. I own several rifles in several different calibers. Have owned a 7RM for 40 years. No problem with ammo ever. The Tikka T3 Superlite in 7RM is my current go to rifle.
 

Ikeepitcold

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I’ve shot 7 mag for ever. Only recently changed to 300 win only for more bullet choices.

You won’t be disappointed with 7 mag. It’s been around forever and has proved it’s self time and time again.
 

JimP

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I'll be another one to praise the 7mm Rem mag. There is nothing wrong with it. Granted there are a lot of other calibers that are close to what it is and what it does but that can be said for any caliber out there.

I have had mine now for over 40 years and while it is in semi retirement I'll still pull it out when I need a round that will reach out there and touch a animal. And yes I have a couple of other rifles that will also do what it will do and one of them that will do it better but the milder recoil of that 7mm will get the nod for deer and elk sized animals.
 

sneakypete

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i have two 7mm's both model 70 with one being a extreme weather! Never an issue with them! I've taken moose, elk, deer, pigs and even a coyote with them!
 

Team Kabob

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Two 7mm?s here and you can find Ammo almost anywhere


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Daubs

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7mm REM MAG is a damn good caliber! Not a sexy choice like the short mags, but you won't have a problem finding ammo. About the only better availability is with 30-06 and 300 Win Mag.

Love my 7!
 

Colorado Cowboy

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7mm mag is a great cartridge! Nothing wrong with belted mags, I shoot three and have never had a case separation at the belt. I personal think the new short mags are a great marketing ploy ....to sell more rifles. The only real advantage IMHO is that they are shorter and the action is also shorter and saves a little weight.
 

Prerylyon

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My .280 is the 7mm Rem Mag's little brother: I concede that I have envy and want one! [emoji38]

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Hilltop

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I owned one for several years. I took several antelope and deer and one elk with it. It killed them all but I found myself having to do follow up shots on a lot more game than I ever had to with the 30 calibers. Now almost all of those animals would have died from the first hit but at times the animals didn't even look hit. I always shoot controlled expansion bullets instead of the ballistic tip variety that blows a softball sized hole in antelope. I have seen 7s bang flop many animals using that style of ammo but it's not what I prefer. There are a gob of guys out there successfully hunting with the 7 mag so take my opinion as just a matter of preference.
 

Timr245

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7 mag is a great do-all cartridge. I lobby that bullet selection and shot placement are by far more important than the caliber though. I only use Nosler Accu-Bonds as they’ve proven time and time again to perform perfectly.
 

mallardsx2

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I dont know if you reload of not.

But I do know that I have a hard time finding my short mag ammo on shelves. And I always see 7MM ammo on the shelves.

Maybe that will help you in your decision.

I have enough brass accumulated now that I will be reloading for my short mag so if I dont have any ammo it will be my own fault. ha!
 

theddguide

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I will be reloading my own. I've been thinking id try out the 150 e-tips and or the 160 accubonds. Gotta get the rifle first which won't happen for a couple months. Any special tips for loading the 7 mag? Any load data for them e-tips would be nice; haven't looked too hard but I haven't seen any for them anywhere or anything that'd be of good reference.

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hunter25

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Looks like your decision is made, but I'll add my thoughts anyway.
I used a 7mag the last 12 years with excellent results. Shooting 160 barnes tsx for everything. Antelope to elk.
I moved up to the 300 win mag this year due to an alaska hunt and the possibility of big bears being around. Doesn't kill any better but I love it just a little bit more.


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Timr245

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I will be reloading my own. I've been thinking id try out the 150 e-tips and or the 160 accubonds. Gotta get the rifle first which won't happen for a couple months. Any special tips for loading the 7 mag? Any load data for them e-tips would be nice; haven't looked too hard but I haven't seen any for them anywhere or anything that'd be of good reference.

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Nosler will have well established load data for their E-tip and accu-bonds. I hand load alot and had personally accuracy issues with the e-tip. The extra few fps for the higher BC just isn’t worth any sacrifice in accuracy.
 

theddguide

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I like the idea of 95%+ weight retention for superior penetration on game like elk. The charts show the 150 e-tip with at 3100fps to hang right with the 160 accubond at 3000fps out to 500 yard. It's very similar in energy and actually still faster at that distance according to the charts. I know it's just charts but it's what has me interested in them.

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mcseal2

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E tips shoot great out of my 300 win mag. I'd just recommend making sure you retain enough velocity at the ranges you plan to use them at. For example my 180 starting at 2900fps showed adequate expansion on a quartering toward shot at 370 yards this year on a whitetail. The bullet penetrated a lot of buck and ended up under the offside hide. Impact velocity should have been around 2075fps. I don't know how much slower the bullet could have been to still show good expansion. It might be a 450 or 500 yard bullet before it slows to much to expand adequately at least at my rifle's speed.

The 2 I put in my moose both exited at 300 yards broadside.

The Accubond won't penetrate quite like the E tip because it expands more readily and creates a bigger mushroom that then holds it's shape. It is a bigger diameter mushroom to shove through an animal, so it encounters more resistance. I've used them past 400 yards and been happy with the results. I've never had a bad thing to say about an Accubond.

My 300 also likes the 180gr Accubond at 2956fps and they have performed well for me. I am undecided which to use if I draw an elk tag next year. I went to the tougher E tip for my moose hunt, but shots tend to be on the long side where I elk hunt.

It depends on how far you shoot and how much you value penetration over wound channel which is best. Or just go with what shoots the best, both are good bullets.
 
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sneakypete

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You guys might laugh at me, but I only shoot Remington corelokts! The bull moose was a one shot kill right off his feet. My guide even asked me what bullet was I using. My theory is if it ain't broke why change!
 

mallardsx2

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I have watched a lot of deer die by cor-loks.

A study was done a few years ago in Pennsylvania and more deer had been killed with those bullets than any other bullet.