Wolves through the Cascades

[AKaviator]

B.B.
You're right about a lot of the managers but you may under estimate the wolves a little. I doubt that there will ever be a small secluded population of them, once they establish in an area. And hunting alone won't keep them in check. In fact, it won't put a noticeable dent in the population!

Up here we can hold a wolf population down or reduce it in defined area's by trapping hunting and aerial shooting from airplanes and sometimes helicopters. But the It takes a big effort and the wolf population will rebound within a year. Wolves are smart and trap wary and learn quick how to avoid airplanes. They also breed quickly. My guess is that if you have a wolf population now, you'll have them 100 years from now too.
It's best not to let them establish if you don't want them.
As for these wolves being the bigger species...I don't think you all would have liked the smaller ones very well either. Pack hunters can kill most anything they encounter.

 

[badgerbob]

B.B.
You're right about a lot of the managers but you may under estimate the wolves a little. I doubt that there will ever be a small secluded population of them, once they establish in an area. And hunting alone won't keep them in check. In fact, it won't put a noticeable dent in the population!

Up here we can hold a wolf population down or reduce it in defined area's by trapping hunting and aerial shooting from airplanes and sometimes helicopters. But the It takes a big effort and the wolf population will rebound within a year. Wolves are smart and trap wary and learn quick how to avoid airplanes. They also breed quickly. My guess is that if you have a wolf population now, you'll have them 100 years from now too.
It's best not to let them establish if you don't want them.
As for these wolves being the bigger species...I don't think you all would have liked the smaller ones very well either. Pack hunters can kill most anything they encounter.

I am in agreement with you. My point was, even if we were all in agreement with a small population, we could not trust those managing the wolves. Another thought occurred to me. Aren't wildlife management programs funded through the sales of licenses and tags? And I am not sure but I think the Pitman/Robertson act, which taxes sporting goods and outdoors gear, helps to fund wildlife management. So here is the deal. Hunters are footing the bill for something that is detrimental to hunting. Who gets to decide what this money, generated by hunters, gets spent on? Not the Hunters. My bet is it would be a different story if the wolf advocates had to fund the programs they support. Secondly, who wants to see these wolves in the first place. Most of the people backing this nonsense will probably never get out and see one in the wild. Not that I am wishing harm on anyone, but if they do I hope it is a real scary experience. Long strory short, we have wolves. I guess we all need to be raising our voice on what to do with them. I really don't see Oregon wiping out the population already started. I understand the pack in the Cascades has had two litters, probably around 10 there now. That's 11 to many.

 

[SQUATCH831]

I have seen one wolf in the santiam unit this last rifle season

 

[sneakypete]

I asked a Oregon biologist at the sheep show in Reno, about Oregons wolves and when will they be hunt able? He said they haven't reached there objective yet, my response is Now we have a Pair that came from Oregon in the Doris area on Northern Calif. I also mentioned that they set up shop in an area the Elk were reintroduced ! My thoughts are SSS, coyotes are legal some are bigger than others.

 

[xtreme]

That's how I feel. There was a reason they had a bounty on them.

 

[Travisitguy]

Claiming to pass off a wolf as a coyote wont fly. The rancher/hunter that had shot a wolf while coyote hunting in I believe it was John Day area last year got pretty heavily fined. Granted he did turn himself in as I believe most honest hunters would do had they made a mistake. I guess they had to make an example out of him. I was of similar thought until that story made the rounds.

 

[sneakypete]

Same thing happened in Colorado!

 

[JasonGNV]

Well a wolf just attacked a calf in Swan Lake in the last few days. OR-33 is what they called him. 2 year old male still establishing his new turf. They will spread like disease all over the west.

 

[WRO]

Claiming to pass off a wolf as a coyote wont fly. The rancher/hunter that had shot a wolf while coyote hunting in I believe it was John Day area last year got pretty heavily fined. Granted he did turn himself in as I believe most honest hunters would do had they made a mistake. I guess they had to make an example out of him. I was of similar thought until that story made the rounds.

He walked through my buddies ranch during deer season.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

The correct action would be


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