I hope it's Ok to post this type of info on the forum. I'm just concerned about access to public lands and our public lands. This is where most of my recreation occurs.
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Sportsman's rally for public lands
- Thread starter mrcowboy
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I hope it's Ok to post this type of info on the forum. I'm just concerned about access to public lands and our public lands. This is where most of my recreation occurs.
Are you working with BHA, they are a forum sponsor. They are strongly in favor of keeping public lands public and I'm sure they would love to see this and talk about it if you haven't allready.
This is going to be an excellent event! Anyone in the area should definitely take the time to let their voice be heard. And stay tuned for similar events co-hosted by a coalition of sportsmen organizations in Colorado, Idaho and Wyoming!
Tim Brass
Southern Rockies Coordinator
Backcountry Hunters
Tim Brass
Southern Rockies Coordinator
Backcountry Hunters
No I'm not with BHA. I'm the Pres of the Truchas Chapter of Trout Unlimited based out of Santa Fe. Garrett Vene Klasen, director of NM Wildlife Federation, gave us permissions to use and post the artwork. This should be good event. Let our voices be heard. Tell your friends and other outdoor enthusiasts about the event.
shootbrownelk
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I agree GR8, there is way too much public land that is landlocked. East of the Mississippi, if there is an access problem to public land/lakes they use condemnation for a right-of-way/public access to the landlocked parcel. We've got to complain, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. If some of the western state's Governors and legislatures have their way, all Federal lands would be transfered to individual state ownership....and then, goodbye public land hunting.
Topgun 30-06
Banned
If each state would pass a law just allowing "corner jumping" from one parcel of public land to another, it would open up millions of acres of BLM and NF for recreational use. Getting something passed to open up completely landlocked public land out west, as was mentioned in a previous post, will never happen. The only way IMHO to get into those public areas will be to find substantial monies to pay for access and unless it's a lot more than a rancher is making by leasing his property to an outfitter or outfitting his own property it isn't going to happen. I have no idea where that kind of money would come from in this day and age though.
shootbrownelk
Veteran member
You did see where I said condemnation, right? There was a concrete company wanting access to a state parcel holding a gravel deposit, around Casper if I remember correctly. The only way to get to it, was through a private ranch. The rancher was totally against it, and he hired a lawyer. To no avail, they comdemned a right-of-way through the ranch. Not a thing the rancher could do about it. Please tell me how condeming a right-of-way to gain access to public land, State or BLM is different.
jay
Active Member
The only time I've heard of condemnation is from a government perspective, needing access or said property from a private owner to benefit the public or public use. In this case I think it would be considered recreational so slim chance that it would happen. Getting all the private property owners on board would be another story. It would be nice though to have access to some landlocked pieces that you wouldn't otherwise have access to. I guess it depends which side of the fence your on...
Topgun 30-06
Banned
Yep, I sure did and I stand by what I stated! The incident you mention is because it was to the benefit of the state taxpayers for that company to get to that landlocked piece of state land so the state could draw money for it's use and put that money for the public good. What we're talking about would not benefit the state directly monetarily, as the post previous to mine also mentioned. It would cost a fortune to do that for the huge number of places where it would condemnation would be necessary, as well as take decades to accomplish with the number of ranchers that would fight it tooth and nail through the courts.
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RICMIC
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If I were to get myself a powered parachute (AKA ultralight), I could fly a whole camp & hunters in and out. A two man craft can fly with over 400#, so we can get the game out too. They don't do too well in a strong wind, but then it would be just like a fly-in trip in Alaska. We can get a fleet of them, and even buzz the landowners home on the way in.
shootbrownelk
Veteran member
Topgun 30-06
Banned
It's been done (helicopter) more than once by BigFin (Randy Newberg) on his TV Show that used to be OYOA on the Outdoor Channel. It's now called Fresh Tracks and is on the Sportsman Channel. Randy is quite the proponent and spokesperson for DIY public land useage by the average Joe. You're talking some money, but it can be done if flight time isn't excessive.
Murdy
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