Thanks everyone for the great info. on the Guide jacket. I've figured out what I need with everyones help. Now I'd like to pick-up a dedicated waterproof, fowl weather piece when the weather really turns ugly. The Kuiu Yukon jacket looks like a good candidate. Questions are (1) How's the fit, is it cut a little fuller than the Guide jacket with the expectation it is to be an outer layer with probable layering underneath (2) Kuiu website says it is quiet. Is it comparible to the Guide jacket? Thanks for all your help. I know I can call Kuiu for that info. but I find it beneficial to get the opinions of those consumers who actually put the products to use.